Let's track back to old times a bit.
This idea pops in my head randomly. What was your first shoujo and josei series? I was wondering how those old, first series you read actually shaped what you think of shoujo and josei world. How it made you think of this demographic, how it made you like this demographic, etc. We can also talk about series we would recommend to people who have never touched shoujo and josei before. XD
I will add mine later, so let's see what you got!
Uh..um..I can't really remember
But I do know my first romance series is Toradora! and I don't think that is shoujo, more towards shounen..yet toradora amazed me much more
than any love series did.
Toradora, of course..I was still young(2 years ago) changed my outlook on love significantly, I was always so full of myself and always though
that I understand what love really is, but toradora changed that.
Moving on, the shoujo series that I first watched was skip beat. I only caught up with the manga a few months ago but the anime when it first air'd, I was already watching it. It was more comedy than romance, it didn't change anything in me but I still like the ren and kyoko interactions.
It did change my Point of view since sb is through a girl's pov. Then came kimi ni todoke, that was great..and I think through KnT I understood this genre better.
That iis interesting, Zelx.
How do you view this genre now, then?
As for me, I actually read several minor titles (some are even in Indonesian) before; now if I think about it again they were actually my first shoujo series. Merry Go Round is one of them, maybe that title is a bit more popular (at least MAL has it XDD). I was still around elementary and didn't understand too many things, but after I got bigger and re-read the series I felt like those are probably why I think of love like that at the beginning. Series back then were so much centered at the love journey of the main characters that I thought this genre is only about love. Reading more shoujo as I grew up, I saw more interesting sides to shoujo than simply love; thus why I like it. ^^
I can't remember my first josei series... Nodame Cantabile is considered josei, though I only watched its live-action. XD *goes to think of another josei titles*
Nice topic, phio. ^^
My first shoujo series was Vampire Knight. At the time I tried it out, I had only read shounen series, so this was kind of a big deal for me to branch out and try another demographic. The reason I chose this one specifically was because I was promised it was a "shoujo for shounen lovers", which at the time, I was. After giving it a shot, I was surprised to find that I actually liked it quite a bit.
Unfortunately, I don't read VK anymore (dropped it due to not being thrilled with the way the story was heading), but I'm really glad that I tried it out. It was honestly a perfect transitional manga for me. It made me look at manga in quite a different way. I realized manga was so much more than those typical shounen stereotypes! I know, I know -- I was such a noob. But I hadn't been exposed to anything else, so I didn't know what I was missing.
I moved on to Nana next, which I really loved (and even now, I still cling to the hope that someday the hiatus will end ). I then branched out to reading some seinen as well as some josei, and then discovered the awesomeness that is alt manga. And now, shounen is no longer my primary fandom at all. Trying out some shoujo definitely changed the way I read manga and, ultimately, allowed me to find my taste.
Vampire Knight was also my first shoujo, I started it right before season one of the anime debuted. The preview of the anime looked good so I thought that I may as well read the manga first. I read for at least a year than dropped it when it stopped making sense. It did convince me that I did not care if a series was girly or not and I started reading more shoujo.
My first Shojo was Skip beat age 18. For me it completly revolutionized what is read as at the time i was stuck in my way of shounen was what i should of been reading as a bloke and that shojo was just crap. However this changed the way I saw the demographic and as time has gone on I actually now read only shojo as I just prefer it. I do have people tease me for only reading 'girly' series but I don't really care anymore as I prefer the plots and character development.
It seems like we share the first shoujo. I totally agree, you should just read what you prefer and shoujo is a completely different thing to shounen sometimes. It's alright, I enjoy lovey dovey moments sometimes too and people calls me girly for that too. Who cares right, I enjoy what I want Maybe you should check our skip beat thread out and other shoujo threads to see if something interest you.
Most shoujo aren't practical yet the light and fluffy is so addicting to read. I guess we all need some love
Wow, reading shoujo when you're in elementary school.. but I was watching love dramas at that age .Quote:
Yep it isn't really all about love. Friendship and dramatic moments..and even more.Quote:
Hmmm, although I still am not into this demographic of manga yet, I think my first shoujo experience was watching the Taiwanese live action series adaptation of Hana Yori Dango (Boys Over Flowers) which was entitled Meteor Garden. It was way back when I was 10 years old (when I still am innocent about the existence of manga... just anime)and I really admit I loved watching it as a child and really affected my childhood (well not just me but this affected my country big-time). I didn't know it was based from a manga until the Japanese live action series was aired years after the MG-fever then the anime was also aired and then the South Korean adaptation recently XD. Well, I wasn't that shocked when I found out that it was (and still?) the top selling shoujo of all time (correct me if I'm wrong).
And I just realized (just now, lol) that almost all of my shoujo/josei experience was through live action series that was aired in free TV here like Hana Kimi, Itazura na Kiss, Nodame Cantabile, 1 Litre no Namida, and Gokusen (which was one of my faves to watch ). I promised to myself I would catch up with Kimi no Todoke one of these days. And hope this could make a huge impact to my manga experience. :3
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I also like the art work as I love the attention to detail to some of the clothes and the looks of the characters/
Great stories, people~ It's so interesting to see how you came in contact with shoujo/josei and how it changed you.
Yeah, shoujo at a very young age. It was the standard shoujo; childhood friends, grew up together, confessing to each other but haven't given an answer, rivals came, they confessed again and answered, happily ever after. At that time I was simply, "Okay, it's good." but nothing much special until I read more shoujo in the next years. XD
(Actually, love dramas too. Endless Love was my first, but we're going off-topic here. :P)
Shoujo and josei series, even though they might be redundant or boring or flat because focusing on romance, have their own colors of slice of life elements and the moral of the series. I think that is why lots of them are also appreciated in world of drama. ^^
So it's okay to have shoujo change you.
I don't know about shirayuki but I like kyoko . Misaki was great in the anime too.Quote:
You're right about the characters having depth. Most of the time shoujo is about the characters and their emotions sometimes more than the plot.
Haha, I know what you mean about this.Quote:
Well I don't know, I haven't been paying attention to the clothes but I admit they look pretty good and fluffyQuote:
Taiwanese adaption..was it the f4? I remember a certain star, Jerry Yan was in it. Not quite sure.Quote:
I think thanks to the South korean adaption almost everyone knows Hana Yori Dango. But then again HYD was pretty famous back then. I haven't read it but I watched some segments of it..seems like a fun watch. I guess you were laughing alot at the beginning.
It is..thanks to the many adaptionsQuote:
Great titles . I love both 1 Litre, Nodame, Itazura and enjoyed Hana Kimi. I'm not sure about Gokusen but it seems like a must-check-out.
You should like I'm going to, too. KnT changed my sister's life. It brought her into the manga world..and now she is always reading shoujo.Quote:
is it because of puberty?Quote:
I guess we can't understand shoujo when we're young but even I'm at an age like this, I still can barely get some of the messages the author is trying to convey. Those messages are constantly trying to tell me to change my outlook on this and that
That is true. That is why reading such series is interesting; sometimes it could even apply to your own life, feeling somehow funny that you could be in the same situation.
Just wondering, though, do you guys ever 'used' the 'tricks' done at the series in real life, in case you have similar situations?
The only shoujo/josei mangas I have read were Kare Kano, and Honey & Clover. After that, seinen has totally pulled me into its beauty, but the two that I've mentioned were fun to read and I loved the emotional dynamics of each characters. I was a kid and was very bored back then so I read any manga that I find interesting.
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I think being hired to letter Gals! (even though it was absolutely retarded) kind of softened me up towards shoujo manga. I'm not gonna call myself a fan, but I've read some authors that I really enjoy. Like Ryou Ikuemi, and Emiko Yachi. Yachi's P-Natsu ga Ippai was the first one I really read out of my own volition, and I suppose it changed me in the sense that I kind of blindly shrugged off shoujo and josei manga before it. I think the old school art really helps a lot, though. Both Yachi and Ikuemi have been around since the 80's, and it shows.