Originally Posted by Rikudou King
I find it amazing everyone's willing to accept this, but not willing to accept Sasuke had plenty of time to gain a hawk contract, lmao.
It would be the same if Naruto suddenly started summoning desperately needed gerbils without any hints that he was setting out to gain the ability or clues that he had obtained the ability.
Not really. If Naruto was out of sight for a dozen or so chapters doing nothing important as far as we knew, then him showcasing something new could be expected. At least it would be better then him suddenly having half a dozen new attacks when we actually know he wasn't training to create them in that time span.
Sasuke's hint was when we first saw his MS design. He saw a hawk and changed the name of Hebi to Taka. That's likely the time he chose to make a contract with them.
Imho, birds are merciless creatures that really won't bother with trials or allegiances unless forced into something by a tamer. Imho again, both Karasu (crow) and Taka (hawk) summons were actually a form of slavehood, birds acting as tools for both Itachi and Sasuke. They've got the Sharingan, so the birds they can relate to will obey them and fill a blood contract in order to be summoned whenever they want. Just remember Itachi's crow being burned down by Amaterasu, Itachi has absolutely no consideration for them. They're not special in any way, as opposed to snakes, frogs and slugs. They're just tools forced into their will.
On an unrelated matter, anyone else expecting Sakura to be able to heal the '8 gates' opening after-effects in a short time now? She's been practicing healing tons of people ever since Pain attacked Konoha, perhaps she can heal another person nearing Kabuto's regeneration speed. That's one kind of power-up Lee and Sakura could get simultaneously, as he would be able to go farther (perhaps even opening all the gates without death) and protect her, while she would get a meaning and the perfect partner, as he vows to defend her with his life ever since they know each other. Sakura and Lee joining forces would be the perfect combo, even in love: his thick eyebrows wouldn't be such a burden for her wide forehead, so their kids would be normal (lol). And it's perfect for a deluded girl like her to find true love on a noble guy like Lee, who has been waiting for her since always.
Also, it's her way of surpassing the previous generation: Tsunade never found love, she would. And with it, both could go way beyond in terms of skills as well. And it's not an ass-pull upgrade for neither of them. It's just... perfect!
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i think he got hawk contract from the start and the snakes where just jutsus and not real summons.
how do we know Sasuke didn't have the hawk before?
here we see that Sasuke had the same tattoo that Orochimaru had, meaning that he likely used it. It still works as a summon, as we saw in the Sannin battle
Before and further you can see that he has still his regular ninja tools tattoo, but not the snake one.
So it's purely related to Orochimaru.
There is not a single fact proving your point about Sasuke's contract with snakes.
Then how you explain not only Tobi's surprise but Karin relief?
Karin wasn't with Sasuke, they obviously knew each other but Karin knew nothing of Sasuke in the beginning, and I don't think Sasuke is the type to show off his abilities to just anybody.
He managed to hide his mastery over Raiton jutsus to Orochimaru of all people, and I doubt that he had any reason to just show Karin his summon, considering that, when he assembled the team, he already had the snakes