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This is going off topic and it's partially my fault, sorry. I'm moving the posts to the hangout thread.
Last edited by Gats; April 11, 2012 at 12:48 PM.
Sasuke's idiocy is mostly due to his arrogance and is different than Naruto's idiocy, but have their retarded moments.
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Well if I ever manage to understand how any of that dulls his actual battle abilities I'm maintaining that Sasuke's getting screwed over by plot necessity. Bad decisions=/=lack of physical capabilities. Sasuke is too fast and too resourceful to blame his inability to notice the entire battlefield changing on his emotional mindstate. Sasuke was so fueled with rage that he was willing to walk into hell to kill Danzou, so walking into the Kage Summit can be blamed on his rage.Originally Posted by bigman
But this? He's vacant the whole damn time. It can't even be blamed on prior personality traits in the manga. It's just dumb.
Speaking of the Kage summit, the way Danzo got discovered was kinda stupid. I mean, the audience was given indications of something strange going on due to the fact that we could see Danzo's thoughts, and facial expressions. However, none of the characters were shown noticing the way Danzo presented himself. Ao just so happened to "not like the situation" and boom Danzo gets caught. That's blatant bull crap if I ever saw it. If Ao was shown to have at least noticed Danzo smiling, then it would have been believable. However, he just doesn't like the situation? What kind of crap is that? " Oh the situation is not going in favor of my village, there must be shenanigans afoot, byakugan!"
why has the thread of this chapter's predictions been closed? the others(older than it) are still opened...
Nope, for the simple fact that it fits with his predisplayed character personality. Naruto has done goofball stuff throughout the whole manga, so seeing it happen there isn't suprising no matter how disappointing it is. Sasuke has done dumb things, sure, but never because he flatout was absent minded or aloof. He was either fueled by anger and not thinking straight, or he's lulled into a false sense of security by the fact that his opponent is downed.Originally Posted by bigman
Now, if Sasuke was standing there, seething with hatred and trying to smash Kabuto with Susanoo fists instead, he'd keep with Part 2's shown character traits and I'd have to just accept it. There'd be no need to cry shenanigans because he was just being Sasuke. But he wasn't being Sasuke right then. He was being... I dunno, Sakura. Or Naruto.
But Sasuke still has his speed usage with Susanoo, along with range attacks and an extended reach. And Sasuke's been pretty good at balancing his MS usage with his regular attacks.
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Who knows, I'm actually not concerned with that. I'm kind of concerned at how... dare I say boring these last 2 or 3 months have been. This is the longest I can remember where Naruto is on the same level of Bleach, both being "meh" to me.
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v40/c365/5.html I'm pretty sure she could tell which ninja are going towards Konoha. And about chakra she clearly determines that they are ninja by their quantity of chakra over regular people.
I still say that would of made for the smarter plan if they just wanted to take him out quietly.
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Also lets not forget she found Danzo without ever laying eyes on him or anything http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v50/c464/11.html
So to imply they couldn't wait until the summit was over to do that doesn't make sense to me.
Which supports my initial claim. And lets not forget he was on his way to take on an entire village with himself and 3 arguably decent but not amazing ninja. However, you look at it both plans were retarded and he acted as though they were both sure victories due to his arrogance. Its just another kind of dumb in my book.
Last edited by bigman; April 12, 2012 at 12:12 AM.
And Karin mentions their plan here.
I don't see the issue with Team Taka heading to Konoha, since we don't know what his plan would have been. If Sasuke used Kirin beforehand, that definitely would have given them the means to do plenty of damage before even entering the village. In addition, Suigetsu and Juugo basically being immune to physical damage would given them a great edge against most ninjas, especially after they had already been weaken by the lightning blast.