1.If WB had no heart issues,he still has aging health problems
2.If Luffy and the ID prisoners nvr arrive then maybe Ace would have been killed much eariler lol im just saying
3.Wouldn't do much damage to the war cause they're rookies compared to WB and his allies
4.That depends on whose side they're on.The killing WB side or the Help WB first then try and kill him
5.WB would still die and if Ace was still alive,they would have won the war if they retreated
6.Depends on how early.If he arrives before the war "officially" starts,the marines would get their @ss wooped.If half way through,Ace wouldn't have died since 2 yonkous can practically destroy the whole Marine organization
7.Then WB allies would get owned more then they had been
8.Squardo would probably get killed by Akainu if he doesn't take the bait,and WB would still own the Marines and get punched by Akainu,just a matter of time before WB's health act up.
9.Ace wouldn't have died then since WB allies got haki users
10.Then its goodbye Coby,Prolonged war,More damage on both sides
If the rest of the straw-hats were there, most of them would be dead. I mean Luffy only just survived.
That was the point of Kuma asking Nami if Luffy was Ace's brother. He wasn't just saving them from Kizaru, he was sending them far away before they heard about the execution, because he knew they would interfere and get themselves killed.
If Luffy and Impel Downers never arrived, Whitebeard may still have rescued Ace, but more of his crew would be dead, and Akainu could still have easily provoked Ace into a fight and killed him.
Funny thing is Luffy and Blackbeard - if either of their plans had failed, the other would too. If Luffy didnt break into Impel Down, considering how easily his crew were poisoned Blackbeard would probably have failed. And if Blackbeard's crew hadn't hypnotised the gatekeepers to open the gates, Luffy and the prisoners wouldn't have made it to the war.
Would the outcome have been different if Bonney showed up at Marineford has a similar topic, so it would be nice if the two threads would merged into one.
1: Probably less sacrifices/victims on Whitebeards side, still a loss.
2: Ace wouldn't have been freed and die with a lot of other pirates.
3: Even more chaotic with a lot of casualities on the Mugiwaras side.
4: One or more supernovae interfere.
5: No game changer, but plot changer^^
6: When earlier?
7: Many more sacrifices/victims on the pirate side, probably a huuuuge loss for the WB pirates, but that's no secret.
8: The WB commanders would have lost less, but no real game changer
9: Luffy might have died or not, who knows.
10: The obvious consequence.
Last edited by Schabrak; January 22, 2012 at 05:22 PM.
well actually i took Mihawks attack more of a warning fire to WB. Kinda like saying that the shichibukai were here and they were serious about fighting againts him... so it's wasn't anything near his stangest attack, Just enough to reach WB and to get his attention. Cause look at the attack he used to slice the ice mountain in half. something tells me that wasn't his 100% either but still fairly strong.
I kinda disagree with the notion that there were people at the war who were not taking it seriously. Didn't we see pretty much everyone dealing with their own stuff? There were times when we did not see certain characters however that does not mean they were idly seating around. I would think the more reasonable assumption of what a few high level characters were doing at specific points is leading the armies, in particular kizaru and aokiji, the VA and the commanders.
If WB had been at his peak rather than his old self I would think things would have gone dramatically different. He would have never taken a wound from squad and most likely not one of the admirals would have been able to hold his ground against him (they barely did so against old WB). Perhaps garp and sengoku would have been forced to action however that is not necessarily a good thing, specially early on. Garp and sengoku were pretty much planning everything while everyone was fighting, they were basically the leaders in many forms. If they got in the fight earlier the marines would have lost their leader and I would think that would have had a serious effect on the outcome of their initial plans. Heck, even with sengoku planing everything things did not quite go as planned.
I think a Prime Whitebeard would be the strongest person on that battle field, Jozu & Marco's fights with Aokiji and Kizaru would've lasted because they wouldn't of been distracted and Whitebeard would be able to take out Akainu. Garp & Sengoku are the only real issue here, but I do believe that Ace would've been saved at the very least.