Power levels are such a tough one to call in One Piece, as fights are often dictated by the situation. Mihawk may be the strongest swordsman in the world, but if he fought Magellan in Impel Down, for instance, he'd be dead the same as pretty much everyone else. Compared to his fellow Shichibukai (those that we know anyway) I'd put him as one of the top 3 fighters alongside Doflamnigo and Boa Hancock. Whoever replaces Jinbei, Teach and Moria would still be below their level as well imho.
Shiliu seems like a reasonably powerful swordsman, strong enough to impress BB (who was unimpressed by luffy and bonnie). If he is as strong a swordsman as he is implied to be then things like ranged slashes should pretty much be a given and even then he did not seem to be a match to magellan even though realistically speaking magellan did not seem fast or strong enough to keep up with luffy during his bout with him. it wouldn't make sense if shiliu was not THAT strong either as he is likely to fight zoro in the future....
Thing is, dehydrating him would mean " touching " him. If you just touch him, you're dead.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but say that he stretched his hand by turning it to sand, if you threw a liquid at that hand, would it turn normal ?
Or let's say for example Crocodile turns into sand or partially, someone throw a liquid at him, he will turn to his normal self right ?
In the case of Mihawk, he has long range attacks, and also, even in close range, it's his sword that will make direct contact, not Mihawk himself.
About Shiliu, well we don't know if they fought to begin with (unless I forgot), but it has probably happened, and taking into consideration that Magellan is in a closed place, which grants him quite the advantage, it is normal for him to win if there was ever a fight I guess.
Im putting Shiryu and Magellan below Mwk. Not together, individually. I don't see how Magellan can beat him. He can fight in long range and his cuts should have no problem passing through his liquid poison. Hence I don't see how Magellan can stop his immense brutal cuts. And since Luffy was able to "scratch" him, it rules him as a high tier out imo.
About Crocodile vs Magellan, this is a though one. Its true that he was running away, but that was for plot reasons imho. I mean Magellan was supposed to be beaten down by BB pirates. And Croco was needed to seize the marine ship. I would still put Magellan above Crocodile, but should be tough one for him. Except the poison fog, everything can be dehydrated by his sand.
Don't get me wrong, Im not downplaying Magellan. I think he is a worthy Admiral candidate, if he got a bit stronger. Im also putting him above Shiryu Crocodile but below Mwk.
Who knows about his strength, maybe mihawk capable of using haki too? I mean u cant defeat a logia with out using a haki, considering mihawk been in New World already, we know New World have logia user.
Beside even white beard commander able to use haki. I say Mihawk would probably be in admiral level too, Haki can harm admiral :-). If mihawk really that weak then diamon jozu wont even block his attack.
What I'm talking about is that if the logia user is 100% in human form and sends his element towards the enemy. The destruction of that object doesn't/shouldn't hurt the user, as seen with ... all characters? Could you pm me the scene of the CvsD fight? Only if the user uses the element as an extension of his body/extremities, it would of course hurt the user when the oponent has enough/more control over CoA.
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In the SBS it was said that any elemental attacks of a logia are part of their body. I remember it clearly since it was one of my first discussions on this forum, I believe it was with Imitorar. But I couldn't find it in the SBS nor the discussion from back then.
Anyway jsut wanted to say this, hopefully someone else remembers it. Since tbh I lost interest in searching after 2 minutes, maybe tomorrow xD
I think Mihawk is one of the strongest characters but to say he is stronger than Kizaru is ridiculous. Kizaru is by far one of the most powerful characters in OP with a really hax logia.
Remember smoker, he's also a logia type.
Boa manage to kick smoker when he's not even solid himself. Haki can harm logia user wether their in solid form or not. we dont know if Don Flamingo can also use haki, we dont even know what his abilities exactly do.
And kizaru isn't the one with hax abilities. Heck u let him fight between Jimbei and kizaru in ocean. Jimbie wins -.- as devil fruit weakness would be sea it self.
If i were to choose between hax abilties, it would be Enel, his abilities can read mind and further more he can tap into unlimited lightning and his lightning alone can wipe out entire island into dust. 200,000,000 volts will hurt other logia user. only rubber was his weakness -.-, imagine if enel took part in whitebeard war, he can wipe out the entire sland where navy standing. His lightning alone is enough to melt a metal. He will just melt aokiji ice and they all sink into sea -.-
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