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There's no way Ochi's like Ootori, Neo Scud Serve is just shit now. However, Ochi's serve far exceeds the Neo Scud speed, but Atobe returned it the second time he saw it, so it's not that hard to return if you're fully focused.
Or... Is Mach Serve his standard serve.
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Atobe only did it through AK. Or using his Insight, and his Insight is implied by Konomi to be exclusive to him.
The only MSer who might have a serve around Neo Scud Serve level is Shiraishi w/out Gauntlet. Ochi so far has only impressed with his serve, since Niou cant even return it yet. I dont see Niou returning Neo Scud Serve casually either.
Im saying I expect Ochi to have another ability that puts him above the rest of the fodder No.s 11-20 and likely above Mouri.
Are there no translations to these chapters yet?
Waterfall was also returned by Yanagi and Kirihara, so I think it's fair to say that Niou could return Neo Scud after one or two games. I guess you could argue it's due to Yanagi's data, but in the end all the high level MSers should be able to return those serves at some point during the set.
But now that I think about it, Niou was wrong to use.
I guess someone considerably weaker like Ishida. G would struggle with the speed of Neo Scud.
I was thinking about Waterfall but couldnt remember the km/h between the 2. Fair enough they are returnable.
But still im expecting a powerful technique from Ochi since Mach serve shouldnt even let him be better than No.s 11-20. They showed they were all let's just above 3rd Court level.
And if Waterfall was almost as fast as Neo Scud, and was returned by Yanagi, then Neo Scud would be returned easily by Renji, Kirihara and Niou. Oh, and Yukimura would also return both Neo Scud Serve and Ochi's Macha.
Irie's not called the Mental Assassin, but he mindrapes people left and right. Irie plays down and then breaks people just for fun. They comment that if Atobe didn't have such high mental, he would've broken against Irie. Irie KOs Akiba somehow after he goes into serious mode; perhaps he mindrapes Akiba and Akiba mentally collapses.
Irie's less of an mind-rapist and more of an actor, guys.
If you look at Akiba's dialogue with Irie, Irie never actually joined the 1st string, in the same way that Kazuya didn't. Irie may have wanted a top 5 placing, but couldn't get his win at the time, much like Kazuya, so he couldn't make it. Or, he just didn't like the way things were and wanted to wait for the MSers. So, who knows.
Niou does mindrape people though.
Ochi needs to have something else. Since Mouri could have paired with just anyone, since in the Top 8, Im certain at least one of them have a fantastic serve, in speed or power or spin, at least 1 of them.
Mouri could have paired with Hakamada who uses Vanish which I believe can be used as a serve also? Im not too sure, but if Vanish can be used as a serve which I think it can, then Ochi's value would just decrease unless he has something extra which makes him Top 10.
Im just saying I wont be satisfied if Ochi is ranked above Mouri if Mouri can hammer him in Singles and Ochi only has a neat serve.
Waterfall record = 212 km/h
Neo Scud Serve record = 215 km/h
I'm sure this has been discussed already but i can't find any information. Why Ryoma doesnt use PoP?