Neither good, nor bad
and Nixil isely was not taken out so easy he had been fighting the Abyssal eaters for quite a long time...... Remember Detrich said that over half the towns had been destroyed.....and when the Feeders get to the city were Helen and Isely are detrich says "Oh no not another town" or something to that effect...and on top of that it was said that isely did not even have time to recover he was in a weakened state...so its not like they just took out a full power AO.... and did the MIB not say that Abyssal One is just a name that they used to refer to a number one who has awakened...
Sorry i am a tad bitter over Roxanne T.T
Edit: just thought of something.....Clare said that the way to beat Prissy is not by being stronger then her but by being faster.....example she gave was that the stormwind Noel was able to cut off one of her arms yet strong armedSophitia could not maybeMiria/Clare using Anastasia's hair like they did with Hysteria could maybe do some damage on Prissy?
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I'm going to have to wait and see the actual chapter, but it sorta sounds to me like Cass beat Roxy by playing mind games. Cass tricked Roxy into not using all her blades at once, then Roxy wouldn't ever be able to shoot enough off to kill Cass. Kinda fitting when you consider that Roxy got Cass killed by messing with her head. Though Roxy seems to have kinda gotten shafted in the awakened powers.
dem, pis, a dr who can't shut up and so on. of course these chapters are still better then shit like naruto but i will still point out if i feel they are pretty stupid. me being a fan doesn't mean i have to cast a blind eye on it's faults. i just disagree with this kind of thinking but i understand that it may go on peoples nerves so i'll stop it (till the translation is released at least).
edit: why is sasuke changed to naruto? aprils fool?
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Seems like an excuse - I understanding your reasoning but it seems silly...Roxanne never let stuff like that bother or stop her before; copying Cassandra was going to be the pinnacle of her serial-killing career...deliberately not doing so was just wasteful after all that.Originally Posted by Ravenstar
If anything, if Roxanne died because she didn't reach her full potential, then not copying Cassie after all that work is probably a reason why .
Frostymouse, I'd like to think that Yagi is taking his time in trying to organize and figure out how he's going to do the whole Claire/Priscilla thing, which is why it dragged on for so long....we can only hope though that it's gonna be worth it, though it definitely pays to keep an open mind since people are undoubtedly gonna be pissed off no matter what he does.
Including me....so, in a sense, since total appeasement is probably impossible, we can only hope he minimizes the downsides....for me, I'm hoping that many issues concerning and surrounding Claire and Priscilla are cleared up and streamlined...As much as I love the enigma that is Priscilla, I ranted continously on AS about how convuluted she was, and how the whole scent-thing essentially threw a wrench at everything we knew. I want everything to be cleared-up, streamlined, and over and done with.
As for Hysteria being the weakest AO ever....umm....not sure about that - she's certainly the fastest AO we've ever seen; nobody barring Priscilla arguably, is faster then her, so their is definitely an emphasis on speed versus raw-power.
Excellent post Fermat! Really great stuff!!
Though, as for that bit on Teresa and Rosemary....perhaps they were both seemingly there but didn't "know" eachother...they met, but not formally - considering how many people were at Rock Hill or whatever, Teresa essentially met her entire generation...she probably saw Rosemary but didn't talk with her or anything; hence, she never "met" her.
A little confused there, but just to clarify....so is Riful - she's an adult who likes to play off as a child, not the other way around; she was more or less 100 yrs old after all.Originally Posted by Claymore!
It's still bull in my opinion though Nixl - you are right, and I hate that; being labelled "Abyssal One" used to mean something...now it's like a joke or something.Originally Posted by Nixl
Which is sad in a sense because it gives off the impression that power is everything in the wrong way; this inflation...I mean, Priscilla is the cream of the crop and Yagi had better not even dream about making people stronger then her, because then the story truly will become all about power-levels.
Just because the story has progressed and characters are getting stronger and stronger doesn't mean a certain line should be crossed...being an AO should still mean something and I feel it just doesn't anymore -- It makes me remember that AO's , and Priscilla, are just extremely powerful Awakened Ones and not inheritly anything special .
As for Teresa vs Priscilla.....Nixl, the genius, summed it all up perfectly on AS one time -- It's all about finding out which one is Goku and Vegeta.
That was golden, and I never forgot those words XDXD - that's honestly what it boiils down to when you think about it.
That said, given this Teresa talk going on.... I honestly really don't get it -- Teresa got mentioned in this chapter....so what? I understand the implication in her dealing a cripppling blow to Hysteria, but we knew that...
I don't understand where this semi-argument is coming from about Teresatards and some such -- we didn't even see Teresa...so unless the mere mention of her name is what sets people off (Gooral XD), I don't get whats the big deal too much.
...Roflmao, being a fan doesn't mean you can't be disappointed - if anything, you can be disappointed because you are a Fan: you are a fan, and you expected better. Somebody who wasn't a fan, wouldn't care as much, or wouldn't care at all.Originally Posted by number12michael
Were their good things about this chapter? Indeed there was; I loved how Dae and Rubel got an appearance, if only for a second...I liked how Cassie survived, I liked how the fight is at last over....that doesn't mean I'm not horrifically disappointed in 2 of the ZAO's being gone.
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You know what i mean right? Riful was young when she became a claymore and Cassandra was young. When Riful awakened she still had an innocent young girl personality (besides the evil and sadistic part )Quote:
And Cassandra only seemed to care about killing Roxanne when she awakened. I don't know what she will do next.
Thats really all it is. Rosemary would have been an Abyssal one if she had awakened when she was #1, but she was probably nowhere near as strong as Riful or Isley.Quote:
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It'd be amusing if Raki asks about Clare only for Helen to accidently blurt out everything. This is followed by a dirty look from Deneve. Granted, at this point there's no more point in hiding what happened from him and Miria.
I'm more interested in the Rosemary bit. She must have been ecstatic when the orders to purge the current #1 were announced. If No. 2 and No. 3 fell in the massacre she could easily claim all the credit despite not deserving it and get a free promotion.Quote:
You're missing my point....I get all that -- My point was, the title meant more then just that....Being an Abyssal was a rare almighty legendary thing; like a tale told around a nightly fireplace or something. Now it's just "She's an AO, whatever lol"Quote:
In other words, It's become the sum of it's parts...they are no longer anything wonderful or unique, but simply what they are and always been: powerful Awakened Ones.
I'm actually more interested in learning about Rosemary myself The Based...this is the first time we've ever heard of her besides her introduction in the Extra Chapter, and we learn about her exploits -- while Teresa may have stolen some limelight, it was nevertheless Rosemary that finished off Hysteria.
I bet she would be pissed off that Teresa has stolen all the attention yet again, even when it's her victory XD.
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I thought about the Rosemary bit a little. I suppose it was foolish of me to equate "not having contact with" to "not having met at all." Assuming the task force was a large one a la Pieta, it's very possible that the two saw each other but never really interacted. I'm thinking Teresa probably landed the critical hit but suffered some injuries herself, putting her out of commission for a bit and recovered completely only after Rosemary had finished off Hysteria (and possibly left). If the critical blow and the finishing blow came one after another with both warriors being well enough, I find it weird if the two didn't at least acknowledge each other's role in the victory. Then again, these two were prideful warriors themselves. Maybe they just looked at each other, stared and gauged the other a little, and then went their separate ways.
As for the rankings, yeah, it's a bit off. Orsay's statement seems to imply that Teresa became No. 1 right off the bat. Oh well, probably a continuity problem. I was thinking, though. If the Godahl Plateau thing happened shortly after the Rockwell Hill thing, i.e. Rosemary was No. 4, then (probably) automatically jumped to No. 1 for being the highest-ranked warrior alive and then was bumped back down to No. 2 in a few weeks, then that would explain why she was such a weak pseudo-AO. She was essentially just Ophelia's level. Not to say awakened Ophelia wasn't strong, but she was clearly out of the league of the other AOs.
Anyway, can we make a petition for this bit to become Extra Scene 5? This bit about Rockwell Hill and the immediate aftermath turned out to be quite interesting.
The technique of the dust eaters mirrors (in is aesthetic appeal) that of the evil sword. It's not beautiful, and is in fact quite unappealing. Could you really see Roxanne using her head as a mop sweeping the ground? No! Beauty and power such as hers deserves better. That's why she never copied the Dust Eater technique.
I'll agree that Roxanne wasted an opportunity to increase her fighting ability. However, to have done so would have gone against her character. Like her fellow warriors, Roxanne had flaws of character. This one ultimately led to her demise.
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IMO this chapter was godly!!!
I'm super happy that Cassy eated Roxy (Cassy told me that she wanted to dedicate this victory to all the people that said that she was waek and that Roxy was surely a lot stronger.......lololololol).
I'm super happy that none of the abyssals died killed by a normal warrior like Miria so there is nothing to complain at least from a logical point of view.
I'm super happy that this arc is finally over 'cause i want to see Claire again .
I'm super happy that i finally got to see Prissy again and she's incredibly cool like always (ok,technically it wasn't really her,but at least it's a hint that the story will finally return to focus on Claire and Prissy,lol).
......byw, i don't see Raftela at the end,but probably it's just because there was no space left.
Come on,Raki! Go to free Claire!..........and Prissy (ops!)........