The armor haki to use in order to hit Logia DFs will disable the magma effect of Akainus magma punch if he uses to cover himself with it. He was just able to hit ace at that time and burn him since he didn't use haki but he's fruit is superior to Ace's..
it's also pretty clear if the logia user himself is a haki user, the effects would just be the difference in haki between the logia attacked and the physical attacker, so logias highly skilled in haki are still pretty invulnerable
No, just no. How come Luffy combines both haki and his gomu gomu abilities? If a DF user is combining his power with Busoshoku Haki, the DF power are varied.
And yes. Established by the Skypiea adventure, it doesn't matter if someone uses Busoshoku Haki or not if there's a superior element.
what are you talking about? a DF can use haki,and add it to his power! that's what luffy did to Hody,or what marco did to akainu when he hit ace. akainu survived because he used haki too,imo.the same happened to aokiji when Wb stabbed him. if luffy had enough haki,he could stop akainu's magma,as did shanks in chapter 579
My point with this discussion is that Akainu killed ace without Haki since Ace got burned due to the inferiority of his DF.. If akainu used haki when hitting ace, it would act as a shield covering his magma and will just bluntly punch ace and send him flying, not punching through him with the magma... Get the point people? Luffy can perfectly synergize with his haki since he is a rubber man and it will act as a hard glove for him, but for akainu, it will cover the magma effects... Cause haki acts as a shield!
Well, luffy uses haki AND can come in contact with people when punching. I don't see any particular reason for akainu to have such a problem when even less experienced people than him have it. I think this would depend on how exactly akainu uses haki though. We have seen haki is capable of repelling stuff however in those cases haki has already been used solely as defense.
as kkck has mentioned, loads of haki users do engage in physical contact
remember vista's cuts on akainu? marco's claw rips?
it wouldn't be sharp if it really was an aura, vista would have just clubbed akainu with his club-sword
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You actually don't know if Ace or Aikanu didn't used Haki, actually.
or maybe it will merely exaggerate the form of the container, as u said, and enhance akainu's burning effects instead of diminishing it
as uriel said, it's merely conjecture at this point, but frm what oda has shown us it seems to be purely beneficial to the user with no detriment
So you do you think that when Akainu punched through Ace, he used haki? I know it's merely a theory, but basing to what Haki's characteristics are, explained by Rayleigh, we should be abe to throw an educated assumption...
yea but have u seen how luffy uses it?
he doesn't really create a significant boundary over his flesh
he actually just hardens his flesh
that's pretty evidential that colour of armaments haki can be controlled in terms of space
We also know that Akainu is able to use haki, though when he blocked Whitebeard's attack on the scaffold. But everything else can be explained without haki usage.