So Hyakuren can't return Phantom and Rai then?
I don't see why Hyakuren wouldn't work on TPhantom. Putting twice the spin should cancel out the initial spin, allowing you to return it. That said the Hyakuren return isn't something that's free (otherwise Kabaji vs Tezuka game would just go on forever). Given TPhantom really hurts the user I'd assume using Hyakuren on it inherits the self-damage property too.
So why can't Rai be returned with Hyakuren? Well, Rai is hit with the frame, no? When Tezuka tried to return it with Hyakuren with his racquet gut he failed. The racquet gut cannot replicate the properties of the racquet frame. So if Rai was hit, then a Hyakuren utilising the frame should theoretically work.
Entaku Shot counter power shots to an extent?
Like... Shouldn't Shiraishi be able to shit on Rai since Entaku Shot uses the frame of the racket.
I know Sanada > Shiraishi obviously but seriously, if he has a special shot that uses the frame then surely Entaku Shot can counter a variety of power shots no?
And secondly, Hyakku Ren-1-hand is for one-handed shots from what we have seen.
The standard Rai is a Two-Handed Shot so no, Hyakku Ren cannot return Rai. Since Hyakku Ren is always only in one part of the body.
Last edited by Airgrimes; November 03, 2012 at 10:05 AM.
Theoritically Sanada will only use Rai's movement when up against Tachibana and Shiraishi.
I believe Abare Dama and Entaku Shot should be able to at least get the ball back into Sanada's court.
Although Fuji can't do that shot on demand even with Closed Eyes. Unless we see him do it. Which would be amazing.
Wow. I miss Fuji matches. I think I might even skip Fuji's match in the manga and wait for it to be animated.
Since Fuji VS Niou was animated so well.
If Tezuka whiffed on Rai then Shiraishi and Tachibana would do exactly the same thing too. You're talking about a guy who can return all kinds of special hits normally unable to even touch the ball here.
If you take NPOT Rai where Rai clearly loses the 'impossible to hit' property and is basically just another power shot then Tachibana ought to be strong enough to return it but Shiraishi has identical strength rating as Tezuka, so he can't do it.
That's Shiraishi before golden gauntlet removal you're talking about. I think Shiraishi can return it if he hits it.
Of course, I don't think Tachibana or Shiraishi can even hit the ball. Tezuka need to use Tezuka Zone to try to hit it.
So, about the 13 Execution techniques ... I'd say they rank pretty high since you can virtually hit them anywhere. Especially ones like Seppuku and Dialemismos, which would really fuck anyone up. And you become paralyzed once hit by all 13? Yikes.
They'd be pretty strong if the paralyzation aspect kicks in even if you return them all. Otherwise it's pretty pointless to require connecting 13 techs on someone's body when a tech like Duke Homerun will knock someone out the first time it connects. You probably won't need 13 Southern Crosses to take out Nakgauchi and that's a pretty insane difference in the two characters involved (total stat 15 versus 19.5).
Execution Method 13 is decent.
I reckon a bunch of them are decent, but they don't rank too highly.
I put Ohabu, Tightrope Walking and Temporal Difference Hell above quite a few of the Execution techniques.
Marui was handling all of them so easily.
Execution Method are great as a set . Individually, I won't rank them so high.
Last edited by Hardy; November 05, 2012 at 01:06 PM.