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    Re: Techniques Discussion

    I think one time thing. I always thought Atobe Kingdom is the upgrade version of World of Ice.
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    Re: Techniques Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by -Ken- View Post
    I think one time thing. I always thought Atobe Kingdom is the upgrade version of World of Ice.
    Well, it kinda is. But the blind spots they can detect are different I believe. From what I understand, the blind spots found by KnS cannot be reacted to because you can't see the spot the ball is going to land in (so Irie could counter it with his wide field of vision) whereas AK searches for spots that you simply cannot physically reach. So the combined form is probably hitting the ball to a spot you can neither reach nor see if that makes sense.

    And well, there must be a bit more to it than a simple upgrade because otherwise there was really no reason why Atobe used both of them rather than only AK on that last point.

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    Re: Techniques Discussion

    Well, it's not like it's going to find any new spot, but I can see it narrow down the spot down. Also, I think because the shot need to overlap (both cannot reach+cannot see) it should narrow its use even more.

    And either way, it just seem pretty useless. Users on Mouri level seem to have no trouble handling World of Ice (not too sure on this though). It seem to be mainly AK they have problem returning.

    Really, I think Atobe just use that to see as many possible places he can hit the ball to as much as possible, to open his options up. I think it's hardly in doubles to use tech like AK or World of Ice since it's useless unless that both opponents have the same blind spot. Even if one can't return the ball, the other can simply do it. Atobe probably use it to see if there's anywhere that, say, AK Mouri and World if Ice Ochi, or something along that line.
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    Re: Techniques Discussion

    So Sai and I were wondering why Tezuka started out with Hyakuren in his match against Volk instead of going TnK straight away. One theory Sai thought up is that by using Hyakuren, it's possible to hit Tezuka Phantom without putting a great burden on the arm.

    The idea is that, first of all, the current Tezuka wouldn't put his arm on the line any more, much less so in a practice match. Then it could be possible to use Hyakuren's doubled return to essentially use the opponent's spin in order to create at least a large part of the spin required to hit Phantom. The weakness of this combination could be that it's not useable if the opponent uses shots with extremely little spin.

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    Re: Techniques Discussion

    Guys, where did you get to read those advanced chapters? How come in the website it's only showing chapters till where Ryoma is against the American squad?

    Sorry kinda noob at finding scans.

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    Re: Techniques Discussion

    There are no English scans of those chapters yet, we know what's going on from the Japanese and Chinese ones.

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