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Well, I wanted to make it the most ¨equal¨ as possible, as if it really was a 1st string. Of course, I could just let Tanegashima, Byoudouin and Oni rape everyone (and let Sakata, Gakuto and... Horio in those places, lol) and use the better players to win more matches.
Tbh, I believe Ryoma has a chance (just because he's Ryoma though, not his current abilities). Also, Sanada / Kite is a pair. Sanada rapes Ohmagari like it happenned before. If Tanegashima hits a null ball, Kite can just teleport to it.
I needed someone good enough to beat Duke... why do you think that Atobe won't be enough? I mean, sure, the dude sent Gin flying, but it's not like we don't know that Technique can nullify a power difference. If he could outrally Ochi and Mouri having less stats than both of them (I know, it was just with synchro, but I doubt many players can actually do that) then he should have a shot, albeit minimal. Also, he was just behind Yukimura in my tier, lol. If you want it, have Atobe vs Ryoga and Kintarou vs Duke.
I don't see Executions nor Negotiations working against a pair in Synchro state, that's why I picked them. Also, I still doubt how good Kimijima really is. As for the other pair... we'll never see Data Pair again I guess so we'll never know how good they can actually be.
Leave Kirihara out, Gin's in then... I still dunno. It can be super one sided or close, depending on how well Shiraishi can play among power players.
Marui can use WC... if it worked against Tohno's shots (someone who is far superior than Taira / Hara -guys that got soloed by Momo- ) to the point that he had to injure him to stop Bunta, then I'm pretty sure it can work again. And Kaidou is in the back hitting combos, like a nerfed Kite/Marui (we discussed this pair before actually, lol).
Kirihara is free now, he'll take Akiba. I just need someone from the rest of the pool to take him (Jirou, Kabaji, Yuushi, Sengoku, Kirihara, Kenya, Hirakoba, Zaizen and Yagyuu... one of them should have a chance. I still prefer Kirihara over any of them though).
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I'd also like to discuss how good Bakyuun can be.
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Duke has a 5 in Speed. No forget that. Duke has a minimum of 5 in every single stat.
Atobe isn't at that level yet outside of Plot-Armored Synchro boosts imho.
I mean, prior to Synchro, his rallying was maybe above Mouri/Ochi's by the tiniest margin, or their rallying abilities were all equal.
I agree, I also have Yukimura and Atobe in the same place on the tier. But I see neither of them beating Duke in the long run.
A bunch of DH's? And the fact that Duke is somehow "Bigger, Better, Faster, Stronger" literally, puts Yuki & Atobe in a bad position here. They can't win in the long run.
What confirmed it for us, is the fact that Kimijima confirmed he never went beyond 60% throughout the entire match, but whilst an Ohabu to the face sent Marui to the floor and Marui has a 2 in Power, Kimijima took the Ohabu to the face and didn't even flinch. Proving he has a 4 in Power.
Kimijima's rallying put Marui out of the game prior to WC. And Kimijima wasn't even at 60%. His stats are real.
But I totally agree that WoK Synchro should eliminate Negotiations & Executions. I think Tohno/Kimijima's higher stamina will be something that may save them here.
You had a good pair here. Marui/Kaido ftw overall.
But Bakyuun will have them shitting bricks imho.
I reckon Bakyuun will put holes through Marui's racket. Not so sure about Gyro Laser though.
Aren't Bakyuun and Gyro Laser hit in a similar fashion? Bakyuun gave me the impression it has some kind of gyro spin.
That's my problem. Kenya has a 4 in Tech, but so does Ochi. I don't see Ochi being owned by Bakyuun...
It's hard to say for me.
No. 1 - Yukimura Seiichi
No. 2 - Echizen Ryoma
No. 3 - Echizen Ryoga
No. 4 - Houou Byoudouin
No. 5 - Jujiroh Oni
No. 6 - Tanegashima Shuji
No. 7 - Duke Watanabe
No. 8 - Ryuuji Oumagari
No. 9 - Ikuto Kimijima
No. 10 - Shuusuke Fuji
No. 11 - Keigo Atobe
No. 12 - Kuranosuke Shiraishi
No. 13 - Genichirou Sanada
No. 14 - Masaharu Niou
No. 15 - Yanagi Renji
No. 16 - Kintarou Touyama
No. 17 - Kanata Irie
No. 18 - Kawamura Takashi
No. 19 - Momoshiro Takeshi
No. 20 - Kirihara Akaya
Man, MH has a too many Brazilians :/
Lol, welcome Shiro, nice 1st String. Just asking, is Tohno dead for you and Duke/Ohmagari and Fuji/Kimijima are pairs?
I guess that, considering these last 2 chapters, we should do top 14s now instead of top 20s. I think I'll post one soon.
I'm gonna do a top14 separately for HSers & MSers.
No. 1 Yukimura
No. 2 Atobe
No. 3 Kintaro
No. 4 Sanada
No. 5 Akutsu / No. 6 Kawamura
No. 7 Sengoku / No. 8 Mizuki
No. 9 Nioui / No. 10 Kite
No. 11 Fuji
No. 12 Krauser / No. 13 Kirihara
No. 14 Shiraishi
No. 1 Tokugawa
No. 2 Irie
No. 3 Byodoin
No. 4 Oni
No. 5 Mouri / No. 6 Duke
No. 7 Kimijima / No. 8 Kaji
No. 9 Tonho / No. 10 Fuwa
No. 11 Tanegashima
No. 12 Hakamada / No. 13 Nakagauchi
No. 14 Ochi
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^ Akutsu and Kawamura would probably make a good doubles pair. Niou and Kite pair is unexpected. Sengoku and Mizuki don't exist anymore. Nice, no Ryoma/Ryoga XD
Shiraishi is better off playing singles.
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Mizuki is the data player. Sengoku is one to cheer the team up. Good for team's morale. A balanced team need to have 1-2 weaker players.
I'm sure Inui and Yanagi have better chances than Mizuki really when it comes to data tennis.
Konomi doesn't know what to do with Sengoku anymore. It makes me laugh how so many people have high hopes for Sengoku.
And Sengoku has the potential next to none.
I never liked Mizuki. He was arrogant in thinking he could pwn Fuji only to get thrashed 7 games straight. I don't find him to be as intelligent as Inui or Yanagi. And I'm sure as hell if Yanagi lost against No. 17, Mizuki wouldn't stand a chance against anyone from 11-20. Yanagi is the best MSer at data tennis.
You seem optimistic about Sengoku. I already know he no longer exists :P
^ Mizuki's arrogant. That's why I like him. I agree he'd be beaten by majority players in the camp. Mizuki/Sengoku pair would lose against any pair too. But They should be there. Mizuki for collecting data & making strategies. And Sengoku would be good for team's moral. I think he can cheer people up.
I'm sure other people could do Sengoku's job.