*sniff* Kaiten, you used to be so kind! :P
Although it's worth mentioning that Walking Dead is dark and sells more than anything else in trades (and issue 100 of it just broke sales records for the 21st century) and that one of DC's more popular comics of the last decade was about rape, so... yeah, darkness does have its appeal, so don't get too mad, man. sweeping generalisations are risked when *anyone* does that.
Darkness and light sells pretty well in both respective markets, because tastes and age ranges are always mutable.
Regarding the TOC ranking it's a bit early to talk about a trend but it's ranked 2nd this week and ranked 5th the week before. I know Kuroko had a good ranking sometimes but as far as I recall it was never for consecutive weeks. If it continues to rank well for the next 2-3 TOC's I'm pretty sure it's thanks to the anime.
And Kuroko's anime is way more well-received than Medaka's counterpart. Please don't just compare random anime, there are enough examples where an anime didn't change much or changed a lot. Ao no Exorcist's anime had a huge effect while Nura's anime barely had one.
Another thing to not is that you can't expect that a few episodes will outright change things, it wasn't the case for AnE and it wasn't the case for Kuroko - both anime managed to gather a vast amount of new fans though. If it will change Kuroko's TOC position permanently is hard to say at this point but my first impression is that it will.
- The ToCs aren't as precise as it appears you take them. We know that the ToC roughly reflects the polls, but we also know that it's possible that, for example, if Medaka polled 13th and PSI polled 14th, the editors may take several other details into account and switch those two places. I'm willing to bet it happens at least once or twice every ToC
- The Japanese voters vote not only based on the quality of the chapter or the series, but also according to which series they've read before voting. They don't necessarily read all their weekly reads before voting - it changes based on their free time, the order the chapters appear in the mag, how wordy or long the chapters appear, and so on. It's possible some of them only read half of what they want to read before sending in the postcard (that they're probably only sending in for prizes anyway, so there's no point in sending it late).
- The mag features a lot of advertisements for stuff relating to the manga in it, which changes the votes at least on SOME levels, enough to shuffle the series around in the ToC.
- Not the same people vote every week (my pure, 100% assumption). It doesn't make sense that the polls sample the same relative market bubble every week. It's much more probable that the poll sample will skew toward different series every week. The averages attempt to fix this, but the color spreads get in the way.
And lastly, though this one is based on Bakuman so it might not be true:
- The polls sent during the first week of the issue are relatively small in scope, in the hundreds. Such a low number can easily shuffle around based on the above points.
The Weekly Shounen Jump Rankings are not precise but, as rankings, they are an ordered list of series by popularity among the voters (more or less).
When I first started looking at the rankings I did so because I was interested in how the voters were reacting in some series which I follow in Jump(Specifically Gintama, Naruto, Bleach, Beelzebub, One Piece, Niskoi, and Medaka Box) as I had never really paid attention to that before. It has completely confounded me what I have seen over that period of time.
I've seen bad writing rewarded and good writing seemingly punished. I'm not sure if the rankings function as they are supposed to, and the viewpoint of the voters is just too different form my own for me to really understand, or if something about the voting system just doesn't work like it should.
Whatever the cause, the end result is this..... I have come to accept the basic truth that I have no freakin' idea why the voters rank things where they do.
And as of right now I give up trying get my feeble brain to process this madness.
Last edited by Jammin; July 18, 2012 at 10:45 PM.
we've seen even the once high ranking Bleach or Reborn drop in the ranks once the series went on huge slumps, so it certainly shows that the system isn't completely broken.
as for Gintama dropping, I don't read the series and no clue how it is so I can't comment on the content at all, but it could be because ending of its most recent anime wearing away some of the popularity boost it had before. Who knows. It could also be because the editors are favoring promising new series more, which might be pushing its position down more than it will be positioned.
for Medaka's recent ranking, I have seen very few people enjoying the recent development more than the previous arc when Kumagawa was in charge, so it makes sense how Medaka is back down at the bottom. Anime hasn't really given it much boost either, so no question here.
I'm not sure why anyone would try to paint readership in a broad brush. Sure WSJ comics TEND to have the same general themes, but as for why one is immensely popular and why one is only moderately so? Why would any of us know? Because we don't live in Japan we don't understand the type of presence manga or anime has in a random person's life, whether they're a fan or not. It's like someone being aware of Superman or Batman even though they know next to nothing about them. One Piece has reached that level, Dragonball reached that level. Most other comics just don't achieve that kind of awareness. The people here who are interested in magazine placement, and volume sales represent a very small fraction of the people who would buy the latest edition of One Piece. The overwhelming majority buy it because it's in their face on a regular basis and don't give a shit about reading the entire magazine weekly and don't give a shit why Kuroko or Medaka Box might get or have gotten "undeserved" attention. That's for you guys to argue and geek out about . So stop assuming that they operate like you. And I'm not even talking about tastes here, just the extent of their fandom.
On another topic - What the hell is going on with Hinata on that cover? Is she possessed or something?
About Hinata on the cover......
I'm pretty sure that was an intentionally uncharacteristic drawing. Which I'm guessing has something to do with the movie.
If you look at Kakashi and Guy you'll notice Kakashi is giving Guy's signature goofy thumbs up and Guy has his face in a book like Kakashi always does. I believe Sasuke is posing as Naruto with the grin, the wink, and the 2 finger hand wave. So I suspect Sakura and Hinata are supposed to be doing the same thing. Which is why Sakura is looking shy and Hinata's looking....(?confident?) but it seems like it came across a little bit stranger than was intended. Still...in a way it looks kinda awesome in my opinion.
Hinata despise Naruto in the movie. By perspective I'd say Naruto's life gone polar opposite to how it usually was. Having Sasuke returned to Konoha and his parents being still alive.
Last edited by wintercry; July 18, 2012 at 09:44 PM.
Haikyuu!! vol.1 and Pajama na Kanojo vol.1 have both been scheduled to get complete reprintings again.
Nisekoi vol.1 was also scheduled to get another complete reprinting again. This is the sixth or seventh time....
Last edited by Zeromcd; July 19, 2012 at 02:28 AM.
if the cover is confusing you, take a look at the lead CP of the extra chapter you will see her giving the finger . it's a genjutsu world naruto is trapped in where his parents are alive , that's the plot of the movie.
check out the extra chapter it's really great