Dunno, there are way to many considerations here. Kabuto is effectively immortal for one thing. Taijutsu won't damage him as he regenerates thanks to karin's chakra. Even then, harming kabuto is hard as hell considering his body is kinda liquid. Then we have the consideration that kabuto's snakelike body and senses are further enhanced by his snake sage mode. In this regard, it would be quite hard to take him by surprise. Of course, then there is the issue that he has the techniques of the sound 4 and kimimaru. Kimimaru's bone techniques should add more to his already immortal body to say the least. Even if you do break him his copied bone KG would repair the damage and even without that he had the option to use his skin switch technique. For kabuto being immortal was clearly not enough, he had to show off with the ability to undo any form of damage in an absurd number of ways assuming making said damage is actually possible. Normally regenerating should actually tire kabuto but his convenient sage mode should already does a decent bit in him recovering his stamine as sage mode indeed results in the user recuperating.
Lets look at his battle feats for that matter. He has been fighting 2 uchiha with MS and one of them is an ET with infinite stamina to say the least. Not only he has survived so far but he has the two of then cornered and by now itachi has received attacks which would have killed him otherwise twice. kabuto surpasses doton in that he is able to actually will earth to life and order it to attack.
Hashirama has 3 aspects which are relevant here. First he had a decent bit of actual stamina considering the scale at which he was able to fight. The second is that he had mokuton which has been shown to be awesome in the worst case scenario. The third is that he was also about as immortal as tsunade was.
Now, in terms of stamina I doubt kabuto would lose here. Kabuto has natural energy to replenish as long as he wishes to while hashirama has to rely on his own chakra. In terms of immortality, kabuto reaches the point of it being redundant. He has way too much stuff going on for hashirama to compare.
Ultimately I feel kabuto would actually pull this off.
Because those 2 Uchiha don't want to kill him.Quote:
Not killing is harder than killing.
Yeah, no. One of those attacks was received intentionally, by choosing to protect Sasuke when he could have protected himself. And while you may try to negate the fact that Sasuke and Itachi are holding back by saying "Kabuto's holding back aswell", you have to acknowledge that he came to the battle with prior knowledge of the majority of their repertoire and potentially, poisons set to negate Sasuke's powers aswell.Originally Posted by Uchiha_Blood
Scenario 1: Hashirama wins
Scenario 2: Kabuto wins if he summons the current Madara
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This whole "they are fighting without the intention to kill" just means they won't incinerate him by using Amaterasu and won't stab him with the Totsuka Sword... neither of which Hashirama possess.
Examples are defenetly fictional or do you know someone who can generate biomass out of nothing and regenerated holes in there body the size of you head in seconds?Quote:
Also think of someone cutting his hand off, how about cutting x dudes head off. For a time the limb, head, whatever is still going to twist and move around, then with time as cells die so will organs and what not. But it does not happen instantly.
Logan had his entire lower half ripped off and then he crawled and put himself back togeder.
Because Tsunade is using CHAKRA to fuel this process. Wolverine just pulls crep out of nowhere. He was burned down to just his Adamantium skeleton and then regenrated back to full (from nothing more then metal bones) in sesonds. Do you think he needs oxigen to replicate his cells? :PQuote:
What? You said they receve orders to produce wood element and then i explained that wood element is not achived direcly by the cells. Cells don't receve orders like that.Quote:
Also where did you got the idea that cells get orders to produce chakra? You really lost me. Chakra is a mix of spiritual energy and stamina (physical energy). Chakra DOES NOT come from cells. Cells are you physical energy.
Read on what the bloody thing is:
Yes because i will find cells producing chakra... Can you recomend me 1? Not only that even in the narutoverse this is not correct.Quote:
PS. Nice biology mumbo jumpo still completly irrelevant to the point we where discussing... Personaly i have no idea how you got from what i stated to "You're denying the existence of the influence of hormones in their activity's regulation ?".
They are interested in his DNA more then anything. I don't know how they work but Hashirama's body has that wood element kekegenkai. So if you have his cells (DNA/BODY) then you can use that OR you have acces to his SENJU abilities to mix with your Uchiha ones.Quote:
The thing is the only thing supporting wood element ability to turn into biomass(not plant stuff) are the clones but we already got just about all the elements turning into biomass. So i will not put to much faith into it considering that is just the jutsu.
What happend to Danzou we already know it can be doen, Yamato was able to create wood out of his body and all of them where attacked to his body the way it happened to Danzou.
Let's use Kakashi, he can create raiton clones but could he use raiton to grow an eye? A hand? A leg? Even if it would be temporary?
Wood element is the creation and manipulation of cells its true but plant cells. Unless his entire body is made out of plant goo then i don't see how it connects. Tobi for instance is part plant just like Zetsu and that is why Tsunade said that. Also he can't grow limbs back, he needs to take them from those devices. We do have hashirama's face apearing into fleshy parts so this is hard to digest but...
We have flesh transforming into plant stuff but we don't have it transforming into flesh again aside from clones.
The ability to absorb back the wood is showed even in the link you provided with Yamato pushing the sword out, after it was out he started absorbing the wood thing back into his body but that does not mean he is transforming it into flesh, just that he can turn it back into what it was, chakra. I am sure some 2m of wood beam is not transformed into some 5 cms of flesh.
Of course the posibility that his regeneration comes from what he was most famous for, wood element is defenetly there but it the posibility that its not its also there.
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We know the clone is made up of wood, so that means Mokuton is whats made up of the users cells, not just his chakra.Quote:
The chakra in this case is used to transform and manipulate the users cells into living wood, thats why Mokuton is different to for example Raiton, because thats just chakra converted into another type of energy, not the users cells reshaped into different organic matter. Even comparing to Doton wouldn't work, since its solid matter, but on the contrary to Mokuton isn't alive.Quote:
Thats why Kakashi healing his wounds by transforming Raiton isn't as plausible as Yamato closing his wounds by using Mokuton. Thats the only part I wanted to clarify, I still agree with your final statement.