I also might be confusing this with some discussion or fanfic, but isn't it mention Atobe still feeling his leg injury and so he can only challenge no 9-10?
@Fayte. Correction: Irie let injured Atobe win after torturing him for a freakin long tie break. He also try to finish the game multiple times, and only let Atobe win after seeing his determination. It look Irie is at least serious for the tie break. I don't call dragging around injure people going easy on them. Any other normal people would pose the point, and it would be game Irie 7-6.
Last edited by -Ken-; May 15, 2012 at 01:32 PM.
You must have forgotten the discussion Irie and Tanegashima had after Irie walked all over Atobe.
He said you sure you wanna play around? To Irie. They seemed to be close friends as they were on first name basis, and so Im guessing Tanegashima is the one who is well aware of his true abilities.
After all the madness, he knew Irie's arm was fine, although its perfectly plausible to have an exhausted shoulder after a 6-6 170+ match.
I honestly dont believe that even if his leg was fine that Atobe would have one against Irie.
Irie pushed Atobe just to see how he could improve and he was pleased with AK. Then he got kinda serious.
Last edited by Airgrimes; May 15, 2012 at 01:26 PM.
Yeah. I add second part to my post as what Irie seem to try to do as response to that already.
And fact from manga right now until proven otherwise, Uninjure Atobe Kingdom>Irie. Support hy multiple pages in manga. Your is a theory, for now
Uninjure Atobe Kingdom > Non-serious troll mode Irie
We did NOT see a serious Irie until Akiba.
Letal however was implying that there was a stamina like limit which we haven't seen anything of.
Also Atobe didn't struggle against Muga!Ryoma (Echizen snapped out of Muga during Samurai Zone).
Tanegashima is telling him to be careful. No mention of a good friend of his almost losing at all.
I think Technique-wise Yuki is above signficantly above still. The whole thing where he was the only MSer initially chosen and all.
You cant. Irie's serious mode has only been shown to us coz his acting was dissed which completely made him flip.
Atobe was just getting teased and laughed at during the match by Irie. He was different with Akiba. Im not saying it means Akiba > Atobe at all but I think Irie was much more serious against Akiba than Irie.
Remember this shot? We never saw it with Atobe. Irie wasnt taking him seriously enough.
Remember this face? We never saw it with Atobe. Irie wasnt taking him seriously enough.
Yeah. Read equation again. I'm not teaching middle school math.
2. However, I never said his stats didn't improve, I just said Atobe's improved by more.
3. You didn't adress Yukimura using his abilities for defensive purposes and we don't know how he would do offensively at this point.
Or in conclusion:
An aura or state of being does not effect a stat sheet, as shown with Kirihara. However, a new technique should at least raise the technique stat. The stat sheet is more referring to physical abilities like running speed, mentality, power, etc. When a character gets a new technique, it is usually the technique stat that will be effected.
@Kaoz, I don't believe that you said that even Atobe improved, he is at Yukimura level.
Yukimura's yips improved, and his stats are also stronger.
There's no way Yukimura's stats didn't improve, also, he was the ONLY MS CHOSEN to face against No.11-20, that shows some skill. And about Atobe Kingdom, it can't work if Yukimura makes him run around the court, if Yukimura gets serious, he can score winners to him. Also, there's no time on how yips comes in. Kintarou got stomped by yips and only played one point, so Yukimura isn't limited to how fast can yips kick in unless the oponent is skilled enough to score points against him.
How can Atobe stand a chance against him? Seriously... that's too much. Yukimura's above pretty much everyone except Tezuka, Sanada (probably) and Echizen. Yukimura can't be beaten unless you have a powerful aura (only Tenimuhou and BA), Atobe's insight isn't enough.
EDIT: I'll try my best. Here,
Pre Atobe Kingdom Atobe is 6
Normal (or non serious) Irie is 9
Atobe Kingdom Atobe (uninjured) is X
Serious Irie is Y
And we are given
You can't draw any conclusion of whether or not X or Y (Atobe and Irie) is better in this case. You just can't.
It will still satisfy the equation. This means that we can't know right know if Atobe and Irie is stronger than one another.
Last edited by -Ken-; May 15, 2012 at 06:20 PM.