I agree, Laxus fared better against Hades, than Macarov did. So based on that, can we assume Laxus is stronger than his grandfather? I don't know. I know for a fact that this simple power-system of A > B > C doesn't work in many manga I read. Heck, it doesn't even work with Pokemon, as far as I remember. But Im honestly not sure about Fairy Tail. Mashimas lack of explanation is one of FTs biggest flaw, imo.
Anyway, I gave up on powerscaling in FT and I rly don't care how Laxus does against Mac and Gildarts. My concern is about Ivan. He shouldn't go down with one attack. I rly hope Ivan played weak for some reason. If Mashima destroys another potential great villain, Im not seeing any future for myself with this manga.
WOW! Laxus you are the man! Damn!
He beat all of them, Makarov told him some sort of secret and now we even get RT being arrested. I'm beginning to think that they actually wanted to be arrested. I can't think that they are this weak. But well, they might be.
Mavis is pissed! Look at her face!
And then the little imp guy was going to do something. What exactly?
Now it's Wendy vs the Klutz from Lamia Scale xD
Zeref's power? Really? Wow this is going to be good
So we still can't say he's at Gildarts level, much less that he's surpassed Makarov.This does less to hype Laxus, and more to deflate Raven Tail and Ivan's hype and make them look like weaklings.
Especially as Raven Tail being ousted means someone has to fight twice the next day, which likely means Sabertooth's vs FTA, and Sabertooth vs FTB, and if Laxus has a real fight vs Orga instead of a curb stomp, then he definitely wouldn't be Gildarts level.
Mashima has done it again...
RT were thrashed like babies, and they have waited for so long and trained so hard only to get beaten like that. Ivan who's supposed to be the rival of Gildartz isn't even stronger than his son. Ivan is a disappointment so far.
what some of you are saying here doesn't make any sense to me..
Makarov Vs HADES: He was shocked to fight his previous master. This is why he was trashed. (YOU SAY)
Laxus Vs Ivan: Ivan was shocked to see what he thought as "Weak Son" strong and kicking his guild members ass, so this is why he was trashed.
Then why some of you are upset for Ivan to take that fall. Its the same thing here ...... LOL
More likely Erza fans, and now its obvious Erza is not even near Laxus level
This wasn't awesome. It was horrible. Ever since Ivan was first mentioned, we were teased with Raven Tails Powers. Up till now they were one of the favorites of the tournament. And now all of them, including their guild master were completely trashed? WTF!
I mean, right now the entire Raven Tail plot feels completely pointless! I really hope Raven Tail just played weak.
Guys please remember to discuss the chapter and not start comparing who is stronger than who... we already have a couple of threads dedicated to that discussion.
This isn't over, there will be another twist. Maybe the little thing that escaped is after laxus lightning dragon lacrima.. all in all i'm disappointed by the outcome a bit, because i also thought that ivan has to be at a way higher level (maybe laxus got some critical information about their powers from gajeel?).. i don't care for the other RT members because they really didn't seem to be that powerful all in all.. except for their cheating power. i'm still curious how nullpudding cheated in the first competition.
I can totally live with Laxus owning the 4 members.. well maybe it was a bit too easy, but i can't see laxus struggling one second against opponents like that girl with her hair magic who nearly lost against lucy (nothing against lucy, but laxus is a complete different level).
Maybe he also got ultear-boosted?
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Fairy Tail's OPness makes me wanna support Sabertooth now.
Either Ivan took the fall on purpose after realising that Laxus didn't know anything in order to try to get his son to turn against FT, or he really was that weak in which case I'll be very disappointed. Mashima doesn't really care much for power levels I know, but this is just stupid. RT and Ivan have been hyped up for so long now and when we finally get to see the father vs son match we get this? Ivan was supposed to be Gildarts' rival and Makarov's son, he managed to fool everyone in the stadium with his illusion magic including the likes of Mavis and Makarov, and yet he was essentially fodder against Laxus? Doesn't make sense.
very disappointed by rt and especially ivan. i thought he was going to be gildartz level.... and how apart from obra were they anti fairy tail magics? i wouldnt even say obras was unless it only works on ft members. so very lame. so shelia has zerefs power? thats what i got from the last part of the chapter.