HxH certainly takes itself seriously to a large extent but the seriousness, for the lack of a better term, is created by the characters and the narrative, rather than the mechanical devices (shounen tropes, as i described above) which substantiate a large part of other shounen series.Quote:
Meryeum is indeed (in my opinion) an excellent portrayal of a cosmic super villain. But in my mind, the portrayal stands by itself. DBZ villains - i don't really remember much of. But generally speaking, villains are created for the explicit purpose of providing a form of opposition to the protagonist in shounen - their personal circumstances are largely irrelevant, and they play it with an acknowledging wink and a smile. I think increasingly though anime/manga writers are incorporating human elements into their villains so you make a good point.Quote:
I guess the thing is, being in the genre, HxH utilizes many genre conventions by necessity, as many of these conventions define the genre itself. But it must be possible to create a work of art of a certain genre and differ from it in some way without your work being considered a "deconstruction."Quote:
[quote]To understand better this there is the origin of the word meme which is a word taken form sociology. You can consider it a joke, but because you focus yourself into different stuff. Well, maybe with this I'm taking too much liberties. Let's go back a little bit.
I know people who believes you can't make a deconstruction for a movie because every movie is itself its own cannon, which makes impossibles to deconstruct because the rules are the ones imposed by the movie. Yes, there is genres. Manga has also them. And it's longer.
The difference is in the subject matter that is allegedly being deconstructed. I suppose the difference between something that is "serious" and "not serious" is that in the former case, the author attempts to construct a vision of a world that can actually exist, with characters that the author considers alive. You know, these characters could actually exist. They're real people.Quote:
HXH isn't something that defies the old way. As soon as you see that Shizuku didn't die as foretold but Pakunoda did, you should realize that HXH is every bit vulnerable to pleasing the fans as anything else. Well, maybe not as outright egregious as quite a few things out there, but if HXH is supposed to be about something that matches more of a 'fictional reality', the Spiders would be dead now, the Ants would've won, and Hunter's Association probably should be dissolved by now.
While Togashi is most likely more talented than your average manga author, he tends to get into situations that are much harder to write your way out of because he's fairly rigorous and thorough so it pretty much cancels each other out. You're never going to see Gon die for being an idiot or anything similar that will truly challenge the established norms of Shonen manga. Pausing to reflect if you're truly right AFTER you dropped a nuke on your enemy doesn't mean it's depth. Depth would be after using the Rose this led a backlash that led to a World War that killed more people than Meryem would have in his quest to unify the world, but that wouldn't be very interesting to read either.