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    Fairy Tail Fate of Grimoire Heart?

    Ok, as of the end of Grimoire Heart there were a few members of the former guild who survived and whose fates remain unknown. The main members were zancrow, kain, meldy, urtear, azuma, zoldeo, rustyrose and hades along with bluenote.

    Out of them hades seems to be definitely dead. His soul was seemingly freed from that demon so odds are he moved on to the afterlife or whatnot. In any case it seems unlikely for him to return.

    Zancrow did die however as far as we can tell his soul was actually devoured by zeref. I think it is possible for this to be a mechanism to bring him back in the future, perhaps revived as a flame demon (well, whatever he is revived as is likely to be flame related). Akuma died although his death seems to be very definitive so to speak. He just turned into a tree. I guess it is plausible for zeref to have devoured his soul somehow.

    Meldy remains a member of crime sorcerie which means she certainly has a role to play along with gerard. Ur seems to be a closed plot point by now. She is a 30 year old old lady... I am not sure of how or why she would be brought back. I guess it is plausible for her to be turned into a demon or something by zeref.

    then we have kain and rustyrose... WTH happened to them? Did zeref kill them? Did they join zeref?

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    Re: Fate of Grimoire Heart?

    Seems zeref spared kain and rustyrose.

    However, I believe they learned their lesson and would refrain from such acts in the future. I mean, 8 years after (counting the two timeskips), there's been no word on them.

    There's also bluenote whose whereabouts are unknown. Perhaps acnologia devoured him en route to tenrou

    I doubt they have any role to play again aside meredy who is with jellal. I wonder if the fate of bluenote and azuma were intentionally left open.
    Jellal might try to recruit them like he did oracion seis although he'll have to find and probably defeat them first.

    Then jellal's statement to Erza about having to defeat him or so. If he got those two, that'll be quite the squad he has with him. Especially if they all got stronger as well.

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    Re: Fate of Grimoire Heart?

    I wouldn't be surprised to seem them pop up again in some context, even somehow connected to Crime Sorciere. There's also the possibility that they appear in one of the many mini-arcs to reunite the members of FT. I expect quite an exhaustive list of characters to appear during the upcoming journeys.

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    Re: Fate of Grimoire Heart?

    I still hope Ultear's part is not finished. Oh well.
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    Re: Fate of Grimoire Heart?

    I don't see they coming back soon, but it was implied that Zeref is somehow the master of sorts to Grimoire Heart, or at least co-opted them to do their biding, so that's probably the arc before the last, with Crime Sociere fighting against them, leaving team Natsu extended (plus other dragon slayers) free ti fight against zeref and acnologia.
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    Re: Fate of Grimoire Heart?

    I'd be interesting to see the renmants of grimoire heart joining with crime sorcerie. An army to fight zeref made up of those who at some point fought for him or for the vestiges of his destruction. All 3 dark guilds were intimately connected to zeref after all although oracion 6 les than the rest.

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    Re: Fate of Grimoire Heart?

    Yes, but so many fighters against what seems to be only zeref. As much as we know, zeref is alone. Well you can probably count acnologia but that's it. Both of then are certain to fall at FT's hands. Plus there are the other guilds.
    Except we get introduced to new characters who are on zeref's side.

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    Re: Fate of Grimoire Heart?

    Quote Originally Posted by Holt View Post
    Yes, but so many fighters against what seems to be only zeref. As much as we know, zeref is alone. Well you can probably count acnologia but that's it. Both of then are certain to fall at FT's hands. Plus there are the other guilds.
    Except we get introduced to new characters who are on zeref's side.
    Well, there is also end although his purpose seems to be to end zeref... You also have to consider zeref can make demons at his own whim, odds are he will make some pretty powerful ones in the future. I doubt zeref is actually alone. The guy managed to get servants before he even appeared in the manga, I would be surprised if there aren't people around willing to serve him now that he is actually back.

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    Re: Fate of Grimoire Heart?

    Yeah, that's were the new characters would come in. I could definitely see him creating demons however, Mard Geer was his second masterpiece (after END). If he isn't creating more stronger than that, it'll kinda be a waste of time. Also considering his state of mind and apparently not being as powerful as he was, I'm not entirely sure he could create demons on par with the tartaros ones. Although to be fair, even those ones could be a lot of trouble depending on the opponents and if he makes a hundred Mard-Geer class demons, that would be something.

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    Re: Fate of Grimoire Heart?

    They are gone. We saw that at least two member joined Zeref and former master Hades dead.

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    Re: Fate of Grimoire Heart?

    Considering how bluenote just got embarrassed, there's no hope for anyone from grimoire heart. Even if they brought back hades and azuma.

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    Re: Fate of Grimoire Heart?

    Well, bluenote could have a future role still as an enemy to the weaker members of the guild. Or perhaps he can be turned into a demon by zeref... And considering only rustyrose and kain are left unaccounted for it only makes sense they would have a role in the future, however small.

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    Re: Fate of Grimoire Heart?

    Maybe getting turned into a demon would work although I dunno how effective that would be. Well he's certainly a formidable opponent for the weaker members but he'll either be a stepping stone for them or he'll get some time to shine again before someone hands his ass to him. Personally, considering how last chapter was, I'd rather we just move onto bigger things. Bluenote is probably as best as it gets from pre ts enemies and he isn't a threat. We could just get new enemies or demons or something.

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    Re: Fate of Grimoire Heart?

    Quote Originally Posted by Holt View Post
    Maybe getting turned into a demon would work although I dunno how effective that would be. Well he's certainly a formidable opponent for the weaker members but he'll either be a stepping stone for them or he'll get some time to shine again before someone hands his ass to him. Personally, considering how last chapter was, I'd rather we just move onto bigger things. Bluenote is probably as best as it gets from pre ts enemies and he isn't a threat. We could just get new enemies or demons or something.
    So far turning people into demons has proven to be effective in making them significantly stronger. We saw minerva be able to keep up with erza while using her second origin, which a while back was a triumph card for erza and genma became powerful enough to be considered stronger than any of the kyukimon and give trouble to sting and rogue even though the implication was that before the transformation genma was weaker than even sting alone. As far as we know bluenote is significantly stronger than past sting and rogue at least... Someone like him becoming a demon would be quite something to fear, specially if we consider the power increase could be comparable or greater than what second origin can do for someone. Perhaps an alternative would be redemption for bluenote... As in finally seeing the light or something. He is not that developed but his presence in the manga is not non existent either. As far as I have read through mashima's work he likes to get proper closure on as many characters as he can, bad guys usually come back. I think it is plausible bluenote will return one more time to die either a hero or a demon so to speak.

    Also, there is no reason for other past enemies to not have grown stronger. Rustyrose had a particularly deadly magic and kain was strong enough to best natsu... 8 years with zeref are not the sort of thing for which you get nothing to show, assuming they stayed with him.

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    Re: Fate of Grimoire Heart?

    Quote Originally Posted by kkck View Post
    So far turning people into demons has proven to be effective in making them significantly stronger. We saw minerva be able to keep up with erza while using her second origin, which a while back was a triumph card for erza and genma became powerful enough to be considered stronger than any of the kyukimon and give trouble to sting and rogue even though the implication was that before the transformation genma was weaker than even sting alone. As far as we know bluenote is significantly stronger than past sting and rogue at least... Someone like him becoming a demon would be quite something to fear, specially if we consider the power increase could be comparable or greater than what second origin can do for someone. Perhaps an alternative would be redemption for bluenote... As in finally seeing the light or something. He is not that developed but his presence in the manga is not non existent either. As far as I have read through mashima's work he likes to get proper closure on as many characters as he can, bad guys usually come back. I think it is plausible bluenote will return one more time to die either a hero or a demon so to speak.

    Also, there is no reason for other past enemies to not have grown stronger. Rustyrose had a particularly deadly magic and kain was strong enough to best natsu... 8 years with zeref are not the sort of thing for which you get nothing to show, assuming they stayed with him.
    Yeah I know they get stronger but would it be enough? I doubt it. Considering how easy this was for Natsu, demon bluenote while fearsome would atmost require lightning flame mode and that might be overkill. Granted even current bluenote is a force to be reckoned with, its hard to take him that serious when Natsu had such an easy time. As for bluenote being redeemed, I dunno. As long as he doesn't have to fight Natsu caliber mages (probably the usual 5- laxus, erza, gajeel, gray, gildarts, maybe mirajane assuming they progressed as well which seems likely), he could be relevant but the story usually revolves around those guys (and Lucy). This may not be the last of him but I'm not expecting anything more to be honest. He would be an invaluable asset to crime sorceire though.

    As for those others can we really expect them to be superior to bluenote? Even then they'd had to be a lot stronger to get base Natsu serious and he has two superior forms, then throw plot and Nakama power in the mix and honestly you can hardly take those guys seriously. A week ago, we thought there would be a decent showdown between bluenote and Natsu considering past showings.
    This was why the latest chapter left a bad taste. Its like where do we go from here?

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