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July 27, 2012 10:51 AM
有名人 / Yuumeijin / Celebrity
Re: Team JMan vs Team Orochimaru
He "kept up" with Lee too in the scan I posted since he blocked and reacted to the kick, yet he was still severely outclassed.
Originally Posted by xXan
You can't judge an action, or some second of combat as "keeping up", Bee was toying around and still was the clear superior fighter. If Sasuke was able to "keep up", then why they attacked him 3 on 1 afterwards?
I'm not saying Sasuke is a noob, is incapable or a slowpoke, I'm saying that he is not that fast, not that skillful and the sharingan is not that invincible.
Keep in mind that the notion that Sasuke is fast was given by a guy that later on couldn't react to Sai.
While the notion that Yondaime is fast was given by a nation that he soloed in a war, the fastest guy in the Narutoverse before Naruto came and the major candidate of being the Final Villain of the story.
You can't predict when Yondaime will use Hiraishin, Sasuke hasn't showed nowhere to be even comparable to Yondaime in intelligence and smarts, also him disappearing is instant, how can Sasuke react to instant attacks?
He doesn't have Susano'o, and Yondaime's Hiraishin is faster than A's V2.
Yondaime can grab Sasuke because the situation I showed you can be easily replicated, Sasuke doesn't use Chidori Nagashi 24/7 non-stop.
As for Yondaime's kunai, he has 2 bags behind his back which are littered with Hiraishin kunais, he can spam them as much as he likes.
5 Kunai isn't spam, and say he launches 5 kunai, Sasuke would need to predict which one Yondaime would use, if he would use V1 or V2 or not, and what Yondaime is doing after that.
Imagine it with 10 kunais.
Say there is some kunai around. Can Sasuke look at, say, 15 targets at the same time?
No, he couldn't keep up with base Bee with 7 swords in front of him, and he doesn't have a Byakugan or a Rin'negan to have 360° vision
Tobi himself calls it a "contract seal", and it looks exactly like the signs a Kuchiyose does.
Even if you would want to say that Tobi is wrong, Tobi has a useful, little eye capable of reading through every jutsu it sees, meaning that if the seal Yondaime used is a contract seal, it means that the seal Yondaime used can break contract seals, since, as I said, every Kuchiyose needs a contract
Lol no, remember when Gamabunta ate the Pein body?
I meant like that
July 30, 2012 01:38 AM
MH中毒 / MH Chuudoku / MH Addicted
Re: Team JMan vs Team Orochimaru
We do have a diference. Even vs Naruto with some Kyuubi charka (Sasuke with 2 tomoe) he could block the first hit but then got owned. Just puting your hand up before the target get's to you its not that impresive.
Now Sasuke vs Bee blocked what? 50 blows at least? Bee had 8 blades and count the number of spins he does... Could be a lot more then 50..
Then you have Sasuke actualy hitting Bee before the 8 swords, when Bee was using Suigetsu's big sword.
In no way do the 2 events can be considered the same. If anything Sasuke dodged/blocked a lot of blows here.
As i told you before as long as Sasuke keep moving so he does not have tags around him(keep moving to a diferent area and never again back to the same one) he only needs to counter Minato's normal attacks. He has no need to counter ST. Minato would be FORCED to follow him as if he does not and Sasuke get's to shoot 4-5 fireballs into the sky the fight is over as he 1 shoots JMan.
Also Sasuke is smart enough to counter this. Sasuke was only going emo, moron mode after he got MS. Before that he was acting very smart. He does not need to beat Minato in brains to use a simple tactic to avoid ST.
He does not need to. Only if Minato somehow tags him, then he just w8ts for Minato to disapear from his face and activate it.
Just jump back and trow your own kunai to block all the ones coming from Minato and then keep moving back.
Again you asume Sasuke would fight in the middle of the kunai field and that makes no sense as nothing is forcing him to do so.
Again even asuming it works on anything BUT the kyuubi how would it be used here? The seal CLEARLY can not unsommon ANYTHING. So what? Is it going to brake Orochimaru's control over the gates, he has no control, he just summons some stuff and they are there.
How about the snakes? He is NOT controling them with anything, they follow Oro because they whant to.
If the Kyuubi liked Tobi and wanted to keep helping him the contract seal would have been for nothing as it would do nothing.
Again explain to me how is that thing helping Minato here. I have no idea what contract it brakes and its irrelevant considering IT DOES NOT unsommon the animal, object.
But the only thing showed to BRAKE was the GENJUTSU. Clearly the seal stopped the genjutsu and NOTHING else.
Again please elaborate how would this work here. The only thing you got is that it brakes the genjutsu on a beast you are controling. Aside from that it showed to do NOTHING.
I also remembering a SM Naruto creating the opportunity, i also remember a frog in SM TROWING the bloody frog... Considering nobody has SM to trow a frog... How exacly are they going to do this? Ask Oro nicely to jump in? Even if he does all Oro needs to do is summon a big snake and rip Gamabunta up from the inside.
I have no idea how would JMan get Orochimaru inside a frog and then keep him there long enough for his jutsu to trap him.
Last edited by xXan; July 30, 2012 at 02:12 AM.