You say it would not forward the plot, but since i think he is the next strawhat, i think it will play inyo his backstory. YOu say this plot twist is not typical for one piece, you mean like a women keeping a baby in here 20 months, or luffy having a brother and a grandpa he never mentioned.
I dont think kinemon is that old to have a son in his 20s....i mean kinemon apppeared in the 1st part of this arc and i cant see him just running around with the strawhats and not have a twist......
remember u heard it here first.................mononosuke is dead.
I have to note that Caesar knew his nick name Foxfire Kinemon, so he at least had some kind of acquaintance with some forces outside Wano.
Last edited by Schabrak; July 23, 2012 at 05:55 PM.
if you look back.......i have been saying that mononosuke was dead right after we meet the kids and he is not there. I cant see kinemon letting CC taking his child, without taking his head first.
you can say what u want, but i think he is dead............its so obvious why oda he hiding his identity
Or he keeps him secret so that Caesar can act dirty and uses im as leverage or as a human weapon, who knows.
I feel that Kinemon just not telling us EVERYTHING about his son, his could of ran away from Wano or leave cause he wanted to become a pirate/Marine (which his Country doesn't want any part in it) So after his son left, everybody in the kingdom wanted to banish him, But kinemon couldn't let his son leave and is now chasing after him, he's probably not even on PH he's probe with Doflamingo, Doflamingo probe recognize his power and took him in.
Saying that Mononosuke is dead is really foolish, Oda never made it so a person would be died without being showcase, so if he's truly dead, then Oda will make it so we'd see him alive first and how he died after in around a chapter or two. If you CAN'T find any proof that Mononosuke passed away, then stop making guesses when there's no hints.
Like I was saying wasn't pirates/marine alike not allowed to step on Wano country land? How was Ace able to go in the country even learning how to sow straw from the people there? He burned the straw while making Oars a hat and I know the Wano people noticed that and his abilities, IF it doesn't have nothing to do with Whitebeard then maybe it has something to do with Ace fire abilities just like the Wano kingdom have fire powers and abilities. (he could of leveled up there)
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Ace was one of the most famous pirates of the world at that time, him gaining some favours from some farmer/worker shouldn't be out of possibility. The information we got on Wano Kuni is fifty years old, much can happen in that time. Ace could have snuck of flown into the country too, with his powers the boundry is imagination. He was able to personify a marine for quiet some time on his search for BB, so cares how he got there, when we got the information that he did.
P.S.: WTF, msg expired after a couple of minutes, what's going on with the forum? oO
Ace was one of the most famous pirates in the OP world, true, but even Whitebeard knew that if it wasn't his territory he wasn't allowed to go, even Whitebeard said before Ace joined: "If you wanna go wild in the sea go wild under MY name" so unless whitebeard had some connections in Wano, could Ace really be able to sneak in such a place that Pirates and Marine in the NW is scared of? But like I been saying maybe they respected ace fire powers or need his help we don't know much yet, but Wano Kuni is fifty years old but they said the samurai are still traditional, so if things change its not much.
I doubt that Luffy will make allies every island he goes to, otherwise this will quickly turn into one of those Generic shounen stories. Though it would be a good idea and make for a good story for him to go to Wano. I personally do not want to see what the SH are fully capable off just yet. I know its in Luffys nature to be relaxed in almost any situation (when his friends are not in direct danger) but i feel like he does not see any of the guys present as a serious threat.
Anyway, Im starting to warm up to kinemon the more i read about him on the forums, people seem to have a high opinion of him :P
But with Kinemon being able to cut fire, could he have some link to Ace, too? As he may have helped him to training his Mera Mera abilities. Or maybe Mononosuke became Ace's friend there and now seeks for revenge (on Blackbeard?)?
While he did not make friends with anyone on Marineford or Enes Lobby, he did befriend notable people during the journey to those islands. He befriended Iceberg, Franky, and everyone at Galley-La before Enes Lobby. Prior to Marineford Luffy befriended Rayleigh, Boa Hancock, Jinbe, and Ivankov. Separating Enes Lobby from Water 7 would be near impossible. Separating Marineford from Sabaody, Amazon Lily, and Impel Down would be equally difficult. Luffy was even able to make friends on Thriller Bark; Lola, the Rolling Pirates, and Thriller Bark Victim's Association. The Strawhats have already befriended a Samurai, whom we can assume will warmly welcome them when they arrive in Wano Country. We can logically assume that even if Kinemon's countrymen initially greet the Strawhats with trepidation, by the end of the arc they will be won over, accepting the Strawhats as friends.
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