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Why give Smoker's heart to CC? Thats one of the most obviously things Law has done. He gave him his heart to put CC at ease and to keep him thinking that Law worked for him. This is most evident when he tells CC that he will bring anyones head to him if asked to do so. Also CC is very picky about what he can and cannot do at PH. Which is why he had to call "Joker" and get permission on what he could and could not do to the Marines after Law gave him Smoker's heart. You keep saying he is a crazy dangerous mad scientist, however he has yet to make a "mad scientist" type of a move towards anyone other then random fodders. He didn't even care that the Marines were outside of his lab, he ignored them and decided to use them to test out Smiley just like with everyone else he didn't care about. In Law's and Smoker's fight what was Law doing? He was asking Smoker what the Marines were up to even though he knew fully well that Smoker had no idea what was happening at PH. Yet he asked him those things to get Smoker thinking and then he took his heart so that he would have to continue to get involved involved even more in the matters at PH.
Also the whole thing about it could have happened in a "better, smarter, fast paced if Oda did it like this.." way argument. You can apply that argument and logic to any situation you don't like and or don't fully understand as of yet. Ie. Why didn't WB just save Ace at ID? That would have been better, smarter, and more fast paced. Plus it would have had a "better" result. You've read OP long enough to know that when Oda goes out of his way to make things complicated its for an actual and legitimate plot related reason.
Yadda yadda yadda, honestly think everyones hitting our peak at the right time, discussions are flying every which way. I had to re read the arc just to give my self a refresher and to challenge myself on how I've been interpreting this arc(I actually started at 649). Things that stuck out to me second time around:
1) The sign on the front gate to PH had three symbols on it, the WG, the Marines, and one that I can only assume is "giants"? My support of this this the skull that Luffy, robin, zoro and usopp encountered in the burning land, they commented on how it was bigger then a giant's.(odd also was that this "giants" sign was the largest of the three by far)
2) during the flash back of CC's first convo with Law, Monet does not have wings or legs that appeare to be anything but human, or for that matter anything wrong with her limbs(no poison gas effects like brown beard's crew)
3) samurai shuffle; when the SHs first heard the transmission from PH it was a subordinate of CC begging for help just as the samurai was killing him...we then know that kinemon went against Law and was sliced up. Some how his legs became attached to a dragon that made its way to the burning land, his torso was left in the cold, and his head taken as a trophy/prisoner. I guess what I'm still trying to understand about this is A)why did law attempt to eliminate kinemon(he mentions to Luffy when they make their alliance to, "do something about the samurai").was it orders or obligation? B) how will they alliance function if law wants to kill kinemon, will this void said alliance?
4) we've seen 2 dragons so far on this island, one looks like a bad ass lean mean killin machine, while the other looks cartoony and slapped together. Both have been referred to ask vegapunks dragon....now is this an error in translation where it is suppose to be implied that vegapunk made more than one or are people on the island miss identifying the dragon on the burning side for vegapunks because Luffy and co ate it and as such it can't be I.D.? In which case the dragon that was part of the sled was vegapunks dragon and the other red one from the burning side is ????(momonosuke?)
maybe his crew isn't present because big mam forced them to join her or turned law's comrades into slaves,that's why he wants to take her down. no wait,luffy said that the SHs would join the Heart pirates,so they must be free.
Weird prediction: the samurai will eat the fruit to prevent this massive destruction weapon fails in wrong hands, dying with honor as a war hero.
Mam or Blackbeard he sees or meet Kaido and picks a fight with him, even if Luffy gets best and the crew retreats, it will still move the plot along.
The problem I have with your idea is that it requires Law waiting a for random third party. This can be hardly called a plan. Seems more like a fate-thing, which BB does. On the hand, I believe it is due to Law's nature that things have played out like this. Though known as a death surgeon he is clearly a man who is not heartless, let alone a brute murderer. His actions speak volume about his character:
If he had not saved Luffy, or attacked his mates for real, there wouldn't be an alliance. If he had killed Smoker, he couldn't be an asset to him. So the way I see it, things have played out nice due to his nature/character. But it was clearly not planned out. It's kinda like with Luffy all the time.
Anyway, I believe he had a original plan to deal with CC and his "stolen" heart. But that plan had most likely nothing to do with any unknown entity, such as Luffy or Smokey.
Only after Law seeing Luffy, he might had a plan about forming an alliance. Not the moment he saw Sanji's group. As I stated already, that little flashback Law had is clearly hinting to that. Consequently, there was clear a change of expression on Law's face as he saw a thanking Luffy.
Last but not least, I believe Law will be Luffy's Whitebeard. And Smoker will be their Garp.
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Did Law ever tell CC that he switched people bodies? It seems he didn't tell him about it but did give CC smoker heart though. That could play a big part
Well not sure about the SHs, but I do think he told them about Smoker. It seems no one outside the cage is surprised that Smoker is in Tashigis body. ... Or Mone simply might had observed everything and reported back to CC. Which might also explain why they are not surprised by Smoker/Tashigi.
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The problem with Whitebeard and Ace deaths is that people think now we will see some more in One Piece when they were an exception.
Last big sacrifice we saw was Bonchan, isn't he in wonderful shape in Impel Down? Did the yeti brothers kill Brownbeard ?
Like I said, I wouldn't be surprised if the petrified guys were able to survive somehow.
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