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Hate to agree with someone who was down on the episode, but since Nalu fans freaked over that added scene I've discovered that my new pet peeve is people assuming Mashima is involved in every little change the anime makes. I'm sure he totally told them to change the silhouette Jellal was chasing to the hooded figure a week before the manga revealed they were different people too.
Still stand by my claim: Kagura v Lyon and Dragon Slayer match were both great to watch. As for making Lyon look weak, I don't even know why that's an issue. Lyon's loss to Gray came way back forever ago when he pissed Gray off by saying he knew the ice was Ur. Kagura's still being hyped up.
I don't get the hatred either.
I think the animation was done superb. Furthermore this was just a tease for the next episode. It was done that way before.
So why the hatred? The animation was okay.
Lyon also used 1 hand molding in this episode. He say he "changed" it in the Racer battle. So he changed it, only to changed back? Meh. And there's no explanation for why Millianna tube get weaker by no longer sealing anymore magic either. There's too many inconsistency in the battle, making it unenjoyable.
As for Kagura, she show magic of nothing in this magnitude even she's really mad and fighting Erza. Unsheathe sword might come close to it, but that's about it. Don't why she'll be spamming this kind of magic now. I don't mind filler, as long as it's well written. This is just crappy writing that is inconsistent with the story. There's even nothing like Nakama power up or anything. It's just a gap that overlook by the filler writer.
Some people may be able to just watch and overlook the consistency in writings. But if some people can't stomach that, I do hope that people understand it's reasonable to complain.
Last edited by -Ken-; March 18, 2013 at 09:46 PM.
My point wasn't that Lyon should be stronger now, it's that he's not the point of interest for the match. He's a powerful ally and that's cool, but the character that the anime is trying to build up is Kagura. Kagura being one of the two people who Sabertooth considered a threat, and Lyon not being one of those two people. But if the strongest character thread is still up then I suppose the argument is a debate to take there. Imo the only inconsistency was the Milis tub failing, and since that whole part of the match was more to comic effect I really don't care.
As for why she doesn't spam gravity magic, they do explain that. It's a trump card. She calls on it if her sword doesn't cut it. Against Erza she was fighting much more seriously with her blade. She kicked Erza around like a rag doll almost the whole time, and eventually discovered something that made her give up.
I was an okay chapter and a big teased at the end..
Or that in the two fight that was actually canon, she only used it to barely supplement her fighting style. And she certainly doesn't use it to the extent that she did in this match. She might have even beat around Lyon without using it. She didn't really try. I don't think it's right to call it "trump card". That's just assumption. There's nothing that suggests her power over gravity magic is this high up in the manga. And seeing things in anime that wasn't in the manga irritates me.
Millianna tube failing shows that whoever write the tag battle have no clear understanding of either party or what they are capable of. If he/she do understand it, then that mistake that anyone who remember Milliana ability would simply not happen. If he/she fail at that part, I see 0 reason to believe that the gravitation part or any of power difference of the two characters shown in Lyon vs Kagura part wasn't made up too.
If it irritates you to see things that weren't in the manga then why did you watch the match at all?
This fight is, however, crap. So if people saw crap and want to complain that it is crap, they can't? Is that your point? I'm buying FT dvd when it is available in my country too. So it's like "I'm paying money for crap". If some people just watch stuff online and never buy it and complain, that's clearly stupid. But if I'm buying, I'm a customer. And customers have the rights to complain on the quality of their products.
If you don't know that, consider taking business major. It'll be helpful. Customers can complain about the product they are buying. If this keep up, I'll keep my money and stick to only buying the manga version of this series.
I wouldn't have complain about the match if they don't do the crappy job and assume stuff that's not there in the manga. I feel like I just watch a badly wrote fan fiction. As I stated before,
It's dang clear that they pull things in this fight out of their butt. I don't see explanation such as "Oh, that part is funny. But this part is somehow ok". It's more to me like "That part is crap made up, and this part is crap made up too". Millianna tube not working shows me whoever wrote this fight doesn't have any idea about what each player ability is. So I don't think that person had any idea if Kagura can actually almost beat Lyon either.Quote:
Last edited by -Ken-; March 19, 2013 at 12:51 PM.
Alright. So it's not just any material not in the anime. You weirded me out for a second there. I buy the DVDs too (and I'm five times as irked with the Daphnee arc now that I'm keenly aware of the fact that it's the last thing Funimation got the rights to) so I know how annoying it is to think that you're going to be spending your money on something low quality. I just don't think the majority of this episode was bad.
I've never said the part with Mili was quality. I've just made an argument about the Kagura part of the match based on my observations and interpretations. The sub I watched did refer to it as her trump card, so that would be why I called it such as well. Kagura is treated in the manga as one of the strongest in the whole tournament, while Lyon is only treated as a high ranking member of one guild. I don't find it unrealistic for her to all but beat him as she did. And since Nirvana started off with 8 legs I don't think one inconsistency, especially one for a fairly minor character who hasn't been shown using her powers to that effect in years, means that everything else shown is going to be horribly wrong too. However, at this point I don't think either of us is going to convince one another of anything.
Kagura is overhyped. If you're happy with some made up filler that's not in the manga, cool. But don't jam that stuff up other people mouth and expect them to also be happy with it. It's not "I don't get why people should complain", but "While some people might complain, I like the episode fine". I'm fine with people liking the episode, but I'm not fine with "I like the episode, so other people shouldn't complain about the episode".
Last edited by -Ken-; March 19, 2013 at 04:54 PM.
S'okay. I seriously misinterpreted something you posted earlier, so we're even now. Plus, you're not against the Key to the Starry Sky arc, so you're cool.