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Thread: All 4 Yonko's Vs World Government

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    All 4 Yonko's Vs World Government

    Who would win?

    This fight is not like the marineford war were only marines fought. In this everyone will fight related to world government. Includes Shichibukai.

    Yonko: the current ones up to date chapter 788


    Edit:The marines who gathered in the marineford arc was not all of them. There are many others who were not present.

    After the war only one Admiral was injured and he was still capable of fighting crocodile, Ivankov and all the commanders.

    Admiral levels in marines: Akainu, Kizaru, Fujitora, Ryogukyu, Garp, Sengoku, and Kong.
    WG: cp0, cp9 and Gorosei. I believe the gorosei are Admiral strength because they are at the top.

    Another EDIT: All Yonko's are in perfect HARMONY; so all are very good friends. Hence, they work together.

    Another thing everyone should take into account is that WB was a brilliant strategist just like Sengoku. We don't know how good the other Yonko's are.

    Like Sanji said: Sometimes brute force isn't enough *taps his head*
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    Re: All 4 Yonko's Vs World Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Barrier View Post
    Who would win?

    This fight is not like the marineford war were only marines fought. In this everyone will fight related to world government. Includes Shichibukai.

    Yonko: the current ones up to date chapter 788
    WG ofcause, the world government has organisations like CP-0, CP-9, SHichibukai, Marines, etc working for them, they could easily crush the yonkou if they wanted to.

    Whitebeard couldn't even do a thing against the marines and shichibukai no way with all WG at full power could anyone fight them and win

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    Re: All 4 Yonko's Vs World Government

    Clearly the Yonkou...

    The only way I see WG having an edge is by expanding the shichibukais to include more, or having control of the ancient weapons. With the timeline till date, we know that WG do not possess those weapons..

    Again, the main issue would be to unite the Yonkou. All of them think they are a step away from becoming Pirate Kings potentially or see each otehr as rivals tot hat title. That would never allow them to unite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shasha23 View Post
    WG ofcause, the world government has organisations like CP-0, CP-9, SHichibukai, Marines, etc working for them, they could easily crush the yonkou if they wanted to.

    Whitebeard couldn't even do a thing against the marines and shichibukai no way with all WG at full power could anyone fight them and win

    Whitebeard severely dented them, and that too after Spyder's betrayal and a few other tricks. The minute Shanks showed up, they accepted a truce and stopped.

    WG with CP group, shichibukais, and the whole army wouldnt be able to sustain a united pirate army unless they have another Ace up their sleeve. The weapons could be a game changer, in that case.
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    Re: All 4 Yonko's Vs World Government

    I'd say the yonko. How can the world government stand a chance? We saw the great war and... clearly the world government is short of the might of 4 yonko. During the great war the world government called most of its military assets which included most of its elite marines, the pacifista and the shichibukai. And it was basically matched by WB's crew and its allies. Assuming the world government with the forces we know has to fight the 4 yonko... Its pretty bad for the marines. Just the 4 yonko would put the admirals at a disadvantage as it is. Each crew probably has a couple of members that can at least hold back admirals. Then the main crewmembers all of whom should be admiral or vice admiral class fighters who should be able to at least outnumber the VAs and shichibukai. The marines weren't sure they could even win against WB, how can they win against the 4 yonko? The marines are individually more powerful than any yonko but clearly they are not stronger than all 4 of them.

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    Re: All 4 Yonko's Vs World Government

    Yonko for me too, or they could destroy each other and the RA would claim the prize for themselves.

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    Re: All 4 Yonko's Vs World Government

    Unfortunately, I'd have to say the "World Government". The fact is, they are more focused, determined, disciplined and well-organized globally, plus there also more than prepared to deal with the 4 Yonkou.

    And 4 Yonkou and their crews all by themselves against an entire global organization is unfair to begin with. You need to include affiliations that the Yonkou may have with other pirates as well as pirate crews in general.


    p.s., What about adding "The Revolutionary Army" into this epic battle. I'm pretty sure, their stance would be felt on both sides too.

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    Re: All 4 Yonko's Vs World Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Shasha23 View Post
    WG ofcause, the world government has organisations like CP-0, CP-9, SHichibukai, Marines, etc working for them, they could easily crush the yonkou if they wanted to.

    Whitebeard couldn't even do a thing against the marines and shichibukai no way with all WG at full power could anyone fight them and win
    Seriously? The World Government even need to gather all of their major power just to hold off one Yonkou and you think that they can win against Four of them at the same time? Seriously?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FetherMan View Post
    Unfortunately, I'd have to say the "World Government". The fact is, they are more focused, determined, disciplined and well-organized globally, plus there also more than prepared to deal with the 4 Yonkou.

    And 4 Yonkou and their crews all by themselves against an entire global organization is unfair to begin with. You need to include affiliations that the Yonkou may have with other pirates as well as pirate crews in general.


    p.s., What about adding "The Revolutionary Army" into this epic battle. I'm pretty sure, their stance would be felt on both sides too.
    I would say that the RA is more dangerous threat to WG compared to the Yonkou since they practice spying and placing and rising their members to power inside the WG while the WG is almost oblivious onto all of the RA's activities.

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    Re: All 4 Yonko's Vs World Government

    Yonkou, no doubt. Might be close, but Whitebeard alone was able to dent the World Government (even if only because of Luffy and his team). Four Yonkou, one who managed to stop the war and another who has incredible feats, might be enough, honestly.

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    Re: All 4 Yonko's Vs World Government

    Well , normally , a government has Army and navy , I'm sure in this kind of war , WG will use its own army as well ....

    they can't control Grand line and new world just because the nature of these lands ...

    WG has to show its full power ....

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    Re: All 4 Yonko's Vs World Government

    Quote Originally Posted by hokageji View Post
    Clearly Whitebeard severely dented them, and that too after Spyder's betrayal and a few other tricks. The minute Shanks showed up, they accepted a truce and stopped.
    WG with CP group, shichibukais, and the whole army wouldnt be able to sustain a united pirate army unless they have another Ace up their sleeve. The weapons could be a game changer, in that case.
    dude the WG has 172 countries under them, and each one of those has an army, an in some armies there are people like Fujitora, Greenbull and to an extant people like Kyrous, do you seriously think anyone can win against that?
    the WG is even controlling the balance of power as they see fit, the yonkou can only oppose the marines but not the WG

    Quote Originally Posted by Marzarret View Post
    Seriously? The World Government even need to gather all of their major power just to hold off one Yonkou and you think that they can win against Four of them at the same time? Seriously?!.
    it wasn't the WG it was the marines that fought Whitebeard with he help of the Shichibukai, and WB pirates didn't do anything to them except destroy some buildings and kill some random fodder, other than that WB and his kids didn't do a thing to the marines

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    Re: All 4 Yonko's Vs World Government

    I'd go with Yonko because they're all divided and don't work together. I'm expecting the WG to create Sea-stone Pacifista which would give them one heck of an advantage if it were possible.

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    Re: All 4 Yonko's Vs World Government

    The Revolution Army would win.

    In a fight Yonkos vs. World Government both of them would only lose because there would be nothing to fight for. Their fight would be like the last 5 minutes of the Marineford War, everyone fights to kill and not to achieve something. After the fight is over the world would be unstable, the Yonko territories would be without protection and every low class pirate could take them over, just like what happened with Whitebears territories. There would also be no safety from the side of the government, most of their forces would be wiped out in the war against the Yonkos and low class pirates would have it even easier to go on their tours of plunder and murder. Both sides would lose way too much of their powers and the Revolution Army would still be there in its full strength.

    But if we talk only about which side can kill more people in a war then i would have to say the World Government. In contrast to the Yonkos the World Government fights together, something that would never happen with the Yonkos especially between Shanks and Blackbeard. No common enemy could exist to make these 2 fight together against it and so the war would be not a side (Yonkos) vs. another side (World Government).
    It would be World Government vs. Shanks vs. Blackbeard vs. Kaido vs. Big Mom.

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    Re: All 4 Yonko's Vs World Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Genjil View Post
    I'd go with Yonko because they're all divided and don't work together. I'm expecting the WG to create Sea-stone Pacifista which would give them one heck of an advantage if it were possible.
    You would go for Yonko because they are all divided and don't work together? THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE!!! Shouldn't it be the other way around?

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    Re: All 4 Yonko's Vs World Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Shasha23 View Post
    dude the WG has 172 countries under them, and each one of those has an army, an in some armies there are people like Fujitora, Greenbull and to an extant people like Kyrous, do you seriously think anyone can win against that?
    the WG is even controlling the balance of power as they see fit, the yonkou can only oppose the marines but not the WG



    it wasn't the WG it was the marines that fought Whitebeard with he help of the Shichibukai, and WB pirates didn't do anything to them except destroy some buildings and kill some random fodder, other than that WB and his kids didn't do a thing to the marines
    The vast majority of the army would be useless though as it would be mostly comprised of normal people. Sure, you have your super powerful people but they are the least significant percentage of the population. The full might of the world government is probably just a tad more than what we saw during the great war (we know not all VAs were there). Also, I am not sure if the individual armies of each country would count and even if they do at large they wouldn't be useful. Not to mention that so far nation's military have shown to be utterly useless. Kyros is the only strong person we have seen from a nation's military. Any military we have seen before that has shown insanely weak people by the standards we see today. Even pell (I think that was the name of the guy with the bird fruit) wouldn't have been a fighting asset during the great war. His flying could be useful but his actual strength is by all intent and purposes non existent.

    Also, I would argue that the marines are most definitely not in control of the balance of power. A new wind to the great pirating era, the yonko situation exarcerbating since the great war and the WG needing the shihcibukai at all and probbaly even more than ever before is the opposite of them being in control.

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    Re: All 4 Yonko's Vs World Government

    Quote Originally Posted by kkck View Post
    The vast majority of the army would be useless though as it would be mostly comprised of normal people. Sure, you have your super powerful people but they are the least significant percentage of the population. The full might of the world government is probably just a tad more than what we saw during the great war (we know not all VAs were there). Also, I am not sure if the individual armies of each country would count and even if they do at large they wouldn't be useful. Not to mention that so far nation's military have shown to be utterly useless. Kyros is the only strong person we have seen from a nation's military. Any military we have seen before that has shown insanely weak people by the standards we see today. Even pell (I think that was the name of the guy with the bird fruit) wouldn't have been a fighting asset during the great war. His flying could be useful but his actual strength is by all intent and purposes non existent.

    Also, I would argue that the marines are most definitely not in control of the balance of power. A new wind to the great pirating era, the yonko situation exarcerbating since the great war and the WG needing the shihcibukai at all and probbaly even more than ever before is the opposite of them being in control.
    Kyros is just the first guy from the start of the NW, there are many other as strong and stronger in the NW in nations under the WG, the point is at best the yonkou would be 200 000 strong while the WG would be 1billion strong at least there is just no wining against that, sure majority would be useless but so would the majority of the pirates so it evens out, until we come to the point that the WG just has more people stronger, Shanks has about 10 top fighters, Teach about 10, Big mom and Kaido probably about the same and out of that 40 most are VA level, while the WG has much more stronger people, not to forget unknowns like Fujitora and Greenbull, it is just to much for anyone that is why the RA are turning countries against the WG because they wouldn't win any other way

    look at this for example :

    Mihawk vs Shanks
    Fujitora vs Kaido
    Greenbull vs BB
    Kizaru vs Bigmum

    leaving out people like Akainu and Kong who a both admiral lvl who can make it 2 vs 1 scenario if one of their own is losing, do you see my point, the WG at full strength is way stronger.

    not the marines but the WG, they pretty much control the world and who lives and who dies, they wanted Whitebeard dead and they used Ace to get to him, they don't see Shanks as a thread to them so they let him roam, but any time they would want any of them dead they can do so

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