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    Magi Solomon

    This is a thread to discuss about Solomon.

    We really needed a thread like that.

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    Re: Solomon

    Solomon is such a robot, he has no feelings, not even for his kid

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    Re: Solomon

    Most disappointing character in the flasback
    I don't really understand why the djinns sheba and Ugoh were so fixated on him. He was strong, sure. But he wasn't the only one rescuing species and his personality was bland and boring

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    Re: Solomon

    I would like say that the solomon we got is completely different from what I was expecting (before this arc I always thought that solomon would've been wiser and much more tactical like david)
    And honestly I will admit that he was very bland compared to aladdin, alibaba and most of the main cast.
    However, I can't help but feel sorry for him. His intentions were good from the start and all the way untill he replaced illah, but everything backfired on him because he made some wrong choices (most of which were because of his father).
    All in all he served his purpose in the plot and was a decent character for the short period of time he had in this story.
    Now if the question was: Would I read an entire manga with him as the main character? Absolutely NOT!
    Last edited by airmattress; September 09, 2014 at 03:14 PM.

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    Re: Solomon

    He was also younger than I expected
    In retrospective it makes sense, if he was super wise Alma Torran wouldn't have been destroyed. But the place he has in the plot feels forced, he wasn't really that amazing as a person to warrant the way the other characters were obsessed over him.
    They way he became a god was super shitty too. Like he walked towards Illiah?
    Last edited by minette; September 09, 2014 at 03:40 PM.

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    Re: Solomon

    The non-humans knew him as their saviour and projected on him all their hopes and dreams, that's why they idolized him so much.

    Arba, Wahid, Falan, Ithnan and Setta were close to him, they knew him as a man and teammate, a talented, compassionate, brave man, yes, but just a man, which explains why they didn't idolize him like the non-humans did.

    Sheba was a teenager pining over a guy. It's quite understable that she thought that he was the best thing since sliced bread and oh so dreamy.

    Ugo...it's a bit more difficult to understand why he liked Solomon so much, but it seems that he was an uber-nerd with no social skills and that Solomon, who was a prince and such a powerful mage became his best friend and heard his theories and helped him make them true, so he was a bit infatuated too (in a bromance way).
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    Re: Solomon

    @minette actually ugo and solomon used the "magic to steal rukh from ill illah and overlap dimensions into a single one"...
    Don't look at me xD I'm just quoting what they said in chapter 232

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    Re: Solomon

    Quote Originally Posted by airmattress View Post
    @minette actually ugo and solomon used the "magic to steal rukh from ill illah and overlap dimensions into a single one"...
    Don't look at me xD I'm just quoting what they said in chapter 232
    It just sounds like a massive asspull now I'm reading it again, like sealing god and stealing its power was waaay to easy

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    Re: Solomon

    Quote Originally Posted by airmattress View Post
    @minette actually ugo and solomon used the "magic to steal rukh from ill illah and overlap dimensions into a single one"...
    Don't look at me xD I'm just quoting what they said in chapter 232
    But that magic was discovered by David and Ugo. Solomon used other people's research to become a god, which isn't very impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minette View Post
    It just sounds like a massive asspull now I'm reading it again, like sealing god and stealing its power was waaay to easy
    Yeah it did come out of nowhere and the description of the magic is as vague as can be, but think about it this way:
    Ugo's magic theories allowed solomon to control the laws of physics, he broke a david's barrier in a record time, he created a rukh tunnel to a new world, and he probably did many other things.
    With all that said, him creating the "magic to steal rukh from ill illah and overlap dimensions into a single one" (that'll never get old xD) doesn't really sound too farfetched.

    @yvain I'm guessing you don't like solomon at all :P
    Last edited by airmattress; September 09, 2014 at 05:31 PM.

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    Re: Solomon

    He created a perfect world without making sure that his own species was with him, and therefore caused its destruction. That's basically how I feel about him, he forgot his roots. And you do know the worst thing: psycho Arba never broke her promise to Sheba. She vowed to stop Solomon if he ever went to far, as long as Sheba followed him unconditionally. Solomon truly never went to far until literally the moment he pushed the big red button that blew up Illah and the future of Alma Toran. Arba actually tried to stop him at that moment and he physically stopped her, yet after that she never stopped trying to oppose him for what he did. Solomon screwed up more than he honestly should be forgiven for, and even though Al Thamen deserves to be stopped he deserves at least half the blame for their formation. David deserves the rest.

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    Re: Solomon

    What is the purpose of this thread? To bash Solomon?

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    Re: Solomon

    Quote Originally Posted by airmattress View Post
    Yeah it did come out of nowhere and the description of the magic is as vague as can be, but think about it this way:
    Ugo's magic theories allowed solomon to control the laws of physics, he broke a david's barrier in a record time, he created a rukh tunnel to a new world, and he probably did many other things.
    With all that said, him creating the "magic to steal rukh from ill illah and overlap dimensions into a single one" (that'll never get old xD) doesn't really sound too farfetched.

    @yvain I'm guessing you don't like solomon at all :P
    I just think he's a man, not a god. A well-intended, compassionate man, and a powerful sorcerer, but still as flawed and delusional as every other human. He was like a marvel superhero who got the Cosmic Cube...all that power won't make him a god, and he will most probably fail.

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    Re: Solomon

    This MUST be the greatest thread that has been ever made in Magi forums


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    Quote Originally Posted by minette View Post
    Most disappointing character in the flasback
    I don't really understand why the djinns sheba and Ugoh were so fixated on him. He was strong, sure. But he wasn't the only one rescuing species and his personality was bland and boring
    He was ''the most disappointing character in the flashback'' with such a ''bland'' and ''boring'' personality ..hmmmm. Is it because he didn't cry too much like a pathetic widower as your beloved characters tend to do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yvain View Post
    But that magic was discovered by David and Ugo. Solomon used other people's research to become a god, which isn't very impressive.
    Solomon became god because ''Destiny'' chose him over the rest to be like that ...As David says ''Everything has already been decided''. Also, Solomon was the ''incarnation'' of Illa, so he was destinated to replace him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by airmattress View Post
    Yeah it did come out of nowhere and the description of the magic is as vague as can be, but think about it this way:
    Ugo's magic theories allowed solomon to control the laws of physics, he broke a david's barrier in a record time, he created a rukh tunnel to a new world, and he probably did many other things.
    With all that said, him creating the "magic to steal rukh from ill illah and overlap dimensions into a single one" (that'll never get old xD) doesn't really sound too farfetched.

    @yvain I'm guessing you don't like solomon at all :P
    Have you ever wondered why Solomon was capable of ''realizing/materializing'' Ugo's multi diversified theories!!! Seems that he has an ability that allows him to turn the imagination (Ugo's theories) into reality ...It is nigh-omnipotence I guess
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    Re: Solomon

    I didn't think badly of Solomon until the end when he changed the ruhk, otherwise I didn't see him as bland, boring, or w/e. I didn't like that he wasn't as heroic and dazzling as someone like Sinbad, but I didn't dislike him. I felt almost sorry for him, because until the end most of what he was forced to do was due to external pressures caused by how naive he was about how his ideal would would be. But in the end, there was no more time for excuses because despite him only being in his twenties he should have been old enough to understand that making an earthshattering decision should be at least debated for a few minutes at least lol. It's almost like he just said to himself in the end "screw all of this, I'm doing what the hell I want for once!" But the man was not a child, he bears responsibility for his decision.

    And Dark Schneider, lol I get what you're doing but Solomon is simply superior to most magicians except David who was a singularity. Yes, he was able to use Ugo's magic and was incredibly skilled, but that's it. His decisions were what sunk him.
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