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linking to the gedo mazou? as in obtaining it as a summon by gaining the rinnegan?
that shows that tobi had a plan to give sasuke rinnegan to begin with, but then decided to scrap it
i think sasuke is still destined to obtain rinnegan in any case. the whole analogy of eye vs body has been drawn to death by kishi. sasuke and naruto are destined to fight as madara and hashirama have, and likely even surpassing their level
in this case naruto beats hashirama by having kyuubi yang chakra, and sasuke by rinnegan i guess
Well many said that its likely for Sasu to awake the rinnengan. I have read some theory long ago in which gnut said that if Karin is an Uzumaki she has Senju DNA so if Sasu bit her and sucked her chakra he has Senju DNA too. I think this is pretty possible and sounds legit but with Kishi writing the manga who knows what is gonna happen...
Last edited by Krina29; September 07, 2012 at 10:46 PM.
what will the rinnegan do to him though ........ we all know that madara is the strongest doujutsu user , and there is no way on earth sasuke is gonna surpass him (or maybe he will , because kishi has long supposed that all naruto users have IQs<70)
So , unless kishi wana pull another lame plothole , sasuke with rinnegan will not do much in battle , especially if naruto is going to beat a rinnegan madara helped by hax tobi and being immortal and having infinite chakra
also the scroll shouldnt be somethign madara doesnt know -_- , how would trashy suigetsu get his hands on something might madara didnt . so i wonder how is sasuke supposed to fight naruto in the last manga fight ... but this is uchiha kishimoto for you , sasuke will probably get a powerup and find a way to use yamamoto's bankai using the scroll
Sasuke surpassing Madara would have made sense had Madara not been Super Saiya Jin 11. I always liked that the next generation inherited the will of fire and became stronger then the last but then Madara came along and ruined all that.
Anyway, there still is a lot of lose ends to tie up so I am not really that pessimistic, I will pass my final judgement when the last chapter has been read.
Orochimaru once mentioned that Sasukes eyes had more potential then Itachis, that too might be a hint towards Rin'negan.
yeah i'm just saying if naruto beats madara then sasuke with rinnegan wouldnt even compete...
+ the next generation thing was kinda screwd with both the first hockage and madara .
Good. Madara is credit to team. Surpassing =/= beating the shit out of previous generation or getting more stronger. There SHOULD be something the current generation cannot achieve, or else passing that "will of fire" would have no point to begin with.Quote:
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shisui's sacrifice showed him that someone had to bring respect back to the uchiha...sasuke's eyes/power/.chakra/umph(whatever)is special(like madara was)...but better
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and that's with a rinnegan sasuke...unless oro was brought back(by kishi)to be the canceller/releaser of madara some how
The next generation surpassing the old! Well I think the meaning in that is "When lets say Sarutobi the third became old his Student Orochimaru surpassed him in his prime" But maybe if we got to see Sarutobi edo tenseid with unlimited chakra, and in his prime. I would think he aswell would surpase this generation.
as for the topic of this thread!
Sasuke is definetly going to get the Rinnengan even though we are yet to see his true EMS abilities + his perfect susanoo!
Btw, Obito/Tobi is still using his old eye, wouldn't he at some point sone lose his sight because of the over use of his sharingan? ;P
the unreachable dream...which in this world only naruto can achieve
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with all this power...i just don't know about that
the main difference is he has the rinnegan now, and he has an undying body with unlimited chakra
i assume rinnegan use would drain him significantly. nagato was drained trying to rsurrect the people of konoha, and that led to his death
the same would have probably happened of madara if he was still alive. zombie = unlim chakra, he can spam draining moves without any strain
madara (even without rinnegan) vs hashirama in zombie state, madara probably wins.
There's more to this hate thing and this will of fire thing; The First had the Senju will of fire that gave him the guts to surpass all those around him, so much so that he was able to perform amazing feats that were such that they made him legend even to the self same day.
Senju+Will of Fire = haxxor abilities that surpasses 9000.
The Uchiha can use powerful doujutsu but it drains their chakra so. BUT, you add intense hate to your doujutsu and you're able to do all things short of pulling a rabbit out of your @$$.
Uchiha+Hate = haxxor doujutsu techniques that approaches 9000 + Eternal Mangenkyu + Senju chakra = Rinnegan.
Unless you're Sasuke Uchiha who has sucked on the teet of Karin gaining a portion of her chakra that probably still exist in him in some form and will undoubtedly aide him in achieving the Rinnegan.
sasuke against naruto , final battle
sasuke : i dont even have to go full power against you ,my hatred will obliterate you
naruto : this time we fight , then talk later (kishi will have learned his lesson -_- )
sasuke : behold , amaterasu
naruto dodges easily
sasuke : ahahaha final susano
naruto destroy it with biju dama
sasuke : tsukyomi
naruto : dude even if you stabbed me for 1 year i wouldnt really give a crap
sasuke : ok time for my trump card , you are doomed now naruto ...behold the greatness of the rinnegan !!!!!!!!
naruto : do you know who madara is ?
sasuke : yes , so?
naruto : he had a rinnegan too ...and i one shoted him
sasuke : o shit
I think its pretty much a done deal. The only thing kishi has to do is let the ink dry lol. The rinnegan is the only way for Sasuke to reach the pinnacle of dojutsu and to compete with Naruto...unless the scroll gives him a different option of sorts.
Last edited by NinjaStar; September 10, 2012 at 06:18 PM.
I am getting more and more convinced that Orochimaru scroll is indeed about the Rinnengan.
Remember back then, when Orochimaru said why he wanted the body of an Uchiha... to master all justus that exists!! Something that can't be achieved with the Sharingan alone.
We know Orochimaru found out about how the Sharingan could evolve into a Rinnengan. Kabuto also said to Tobi that Sasuke was necessary for his research, so...