I don't think anyone's whining about Kyuubi becoming good, but how he turned good and how quickly he became Naruto's butt buddy. The relationship they had in Part I was better than the relationship now - though Kyuubi actually shows respect, not love.... Kyuubi slowly turning 180 is better than turning 180 in a war where Naruto needs more free powerups in nick of time.
Raikage did use full speed and killing intent against Sasuke. He just didn't prepare like he did against Naruto. Unlike Sasuke, Naruto had warning that Raikage will come with full power and intent to kill.
Raikage did break baby Susano'o... he chopped through the Amaterasu ribs and got Sasuke right in the face.
Feels like you're another typical whiner against Sasuke....
Yes he did. He did it when he dodged Amaterasu, evidenced by him powering up and gaining more speed than before.Originally Posted by tousendrinksbleach
Atleast he was courteous enough to warn him beforehand. Sasuke wasn't so lucky.Quote:
He broke Madara's, but only because Oonoki lightened up Raikage enough that he could move faster than his fastest speed... and then made him heavy again right at the point of impact. He was boosted.Quote:
Nah i wasnt talking about dodging amaterasu ... I'm saying he started the fight without being serious unlike his fight against naruto . If he went full speed KO punch sasuke the moment sasuke entered the room then sasuke would have died
Probably the same if Raikage went all out at Naruto at the beginning of the fight. Fact is, you can't attack Sasuke without attacking Naruto. Neither gets a free pass just because you hate one.
the major problem i would say is about Obito. there should be a limit to coincident. the biggest incident of this decade long manga has been a coincidence? it is utterly pathetic that Obito would fall through to exact location where Madara was.
then comes the other two points. about Kyuubi, it was bound to happen at some point. so, Naruto befriending Kyuubi isn't much of a problem. however, how it was shown to happen is the real problem here.
and the "The random deus ex machina Suigetsu found"; another meaningless plot. Jugo going berserk for no reason punches only one wall to destroy that. and voila, the most secret room of all was just at the very beginning of the hideout, just beside the first wall. cool.
then suddenly Suigetsu, who knew nothing about the war, how it was going on randomly realized that the special data that Orochimaru had, who knows how much years ago than the war, can win the war. great.
so basically, when he gets something useful, he automatically thinks that as something to win the war, even though he knew nothing about the course of war. and guess what, he instantly think that as a gift for Sasuke. talk about randomness.
Tobi: "Hey, you awake? Itachi is, like, good guy."
Sasuke: "Lol, yeah right"
Tobi: "Seriously, he was totally manipulated and stuff, he gave his life to save Konoha, the village he loved. It is now his one true standing legacy."
Sasuke: "Prove it"
Tobi: "Behold! 10 chapters of flashbacks!"
Sasuke: "I instantly believe you"
Tobi: "Cool, what you gonna do now?"
Sasuke: "Destroy Konoha"
the change of the essence of this character (9-tails/hatred) is way to extrem for me (if he would still be burning with hate for Madara ..... okay, atleast something remaining of what he truely is.... but this is just cheap replacing one character with another: QB against Kuruma).
Didn't see this change of heart build up in the last 500 chapters... saw it in the last 20....
Naruto and QB working together was to be anticipated... but not like this.
anyways opinios differ (eventhough that is annoying at times)
That guy was gonna show Sasuke his face, claiming to be Madara, despite being Obito
Sasuke's reaction would be:
"Who the fuck are you?
I saw the statue of the guy, trust me he looks nothing like you"
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Having plothole protection would be, like, negating the very existence of Obito
Sasuke believing in or buying Tobi/Obtio's story makes sense. Sasuke simply put the pieces together as Tobi went on with his story. The clan was segregated, they were stationed outside the village, they had no political influence in Konoha only Senju clan and their followers had, hence the second class treatment. Itachi did slaughter all the clan and him flicking his forehead before death along with the tears in his eyes, proved to Sasuke that Tobi's story was right. There is nothing ludicrous about his belief or even his reaction.
Naruto's ultimate friendship with Kyuubi doesn't make any sense at all. Why would Kyuubi even want to be friends with his prison container, and for a pointless ninja war of all the things? I just don't get it. But Naruto's plot points are usually pointless anyway. It seems to be the curse of shonen heroes.