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I was suprised actually when HJ went up the 2. week in ToC.
Read the last few pages, before the issue #10 TOC came out. There was a lot of talk that HJ was being protected. I don't get it either.
It is because of that, at the end of the post: http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showth...=1#post3263217
You believe everything they say on 2CH? If so, I have a bridge for sale you might like.
Why would the guy lie about hungry joker and not about the serie cancelled ? Hungry joker chapter 2 was probably last in the poll for real but it was not seen in the Toc because it's a new serie. That's just proove once more than the 8 chapters rule shall not be taken seriously but just as a tendancy, which in the case of hungry jocker is rather bad.
Last edited by cearon; January 30, 2013 at 11:29 AM.
It's quite simple. HJ poll= last place, HJ rank ~= last place => editors decided to put HJ higher for whatever reasons
I'm just saying where it started for people who are confused.
If it is true or not, it doesnt really matter to me.
I trust Zero's information. He does a great job parsing the news, as good as anyone who's ever posted to this thread. That does not mean I'm going to indulge in conspiracy theories because one little bit of news did not come true. Hungry Joker debuted in the middle of the magazine. Nothing that special there. If it had debuted in the top five, or near, I might have been a little suspicious. Two chapters near the middle is not enough for me to think a series is being pimped, no matter what early news has been posted. And now it really has fallen to the bottom, all the conspiracies are a moot point anyway.
I take the eight chapter rule as a guideline, not an ironclad law. For my purposes, I need a cutoff, when rankings begin for a series. If rankings are not immediate, from the second chapter on, it has to start somewhere. The best available information says rankings begin at chapter eight, so for my purposes that is good enough. We may never know definitively, so why not just use the best available information?
I'm not exactly sure why it's hard to believe that the editors would place a series where they want and for their own reasons. Slap whatever label you want on it, pimping, whatever. But I think it's way too early in the series' run to already suggest they're doing that. There has to be a noticeable trend here. A series CAN yoyo. I'm not even sure if color pages is a good measurement of that either, considering people are paid more for a color page and some authors are just more willing to work in color on top of their already busy schedules. Meaning, some are just more adept at it than others.
Last edited by Kaiten; January 30, 2013 at 05:42 PM.
I don't think the trust, or illusion of trust is broken over what could potentially be misinformation. I'm not exactly sure why they would place Hungry Joker higher than it actually polled, but if it's true it only happened once so far. The pimping of series in the past is still speculation. We can have theories and educated guesses as to why it happens, but it's still speculation most of the time. I remember there were some rumors with Maison du Penguin and the author being friends with the chief editor or something. I'm not sure if that was reality, or simply the majority of the online readership of WSJ disliking Gag series and even more so when a fledgling series they like getting axed and a Gag series sticking around in its stead. Usually this happens with a rare sports series, or maybe romance. I think it might depend on the landscape of Jump on the whole at a particular time. But I really can't see Hungry Joker getting this treatment just because it's a Battle series and some of the juggernauts of the magazine heading towards the end. Like someone said before, I have no doubt there's no shortage of Battle series in the hopper.
What's more likely is the editorial staff sees a lot of promise in the author. But that's assuming the ranking isn't legit in the first place. Even if it is legit and Hungry Joker has already tanked, it isn't necessarily a death sentence YET. Many series have managed to pull themselves back up from the bottom here and there to last a decent length.