i dunno i get it....but i feel cheated with all these easily swapped powers, its starting to seem like everybody's power is easily accessible by anyone in Bleach....and there seems to be nothing hard about achieving such a feat...its kind of a shame...at this rate i guess we should expect every member of the royal guard to be Ichigo Dangai level....which is wack...but i mean whats left thats sacred in Bleach?
i dunno it jus seems to me like nothing is off limits for these Quincy
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Royd never interfered anyway, he fought yama, and yama won. Now he's fighting the real Bach and losing badly. It's a fair fight, for which one side prepared properly, and the other didn't.
VR had like 200 years. Yama had 3 days, with pretty much no intel. Come on.
Also Yama isn't at full power anymore, at least thats what Bach insinuates. Hardly a fair fight. If it was a fair fight, Yama would win, thats the whole point lol. Ideally, he'd also have both of his arms, but that's not Bach's fault.
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Now if Yama really dies right there, that's bull. But I don't think it will end just like that. Kubo will have him do something before dying, and an obligatory flashback.
Last edited by exacta; October 02, 2012 at 08:38 PM.
This so-called wise General got played again and Aizen's presence made this chapter awesome.
hold up a minute. if you gonna re-quote me with that response than post my "whole" quote and not a "portion" of it, to make yourself look good. The whole point that I was making is that, irregardless of Aizen being immortal and all, it doesn't mean he can't be "killed". Immortal means you can't "die" like normal "mortals". being "KILLED" and "DYING" are two different things. Period.
It's just like i said before, everyone is some what disappointed with the past few chapters, because we don't generally know everything about the Quincy, Juha Bach or the Sternritters to the same extent as the Hollows, Shinigami, Vaizards, Arrancars, Fullbringers and so on.
Fact is, and I'm just speculating here like everyone else, who is to say that Juha can't kill an "immortal"?. Or better yet, who's to say that he could'nt kill Aizen and just take the Hougyoku for himself. And that's to say, if he really even needs it. Apparently, Yama-ji's Bankai was more important than the Hougyoku.
And if, Aizen would've gotten hit by the "North" version of Yama-ji's Bankai, immortal or not, he's a$$ would've been blinked out of existence. period.
With the CC taken out now we can get a real treat we get to behold unohana fight she and a handful of other captains are all that remain she has to make her way to the battlefield at least in a attempt to heal CC. I wonder whats next for Bach he has conquered SS and HM will he make the next step to the Royal Dimension?
As far as the last slash yamamoto didn't dodge... I would argue the issue is that yamamoto is not a speed type fighter while the quincy seem to be quite better than shinigami at that. Ishida earlier pointed out he was sure hirenkyaku was a step ahead of shunpo. On top of that we had already seen fake juha actually dodging and blocking yamamoto's attacks. Remember how fake juha blocked ryujin jakka with his arm? How he avoided zanka not tachi? Yamamoto never had a speed edge in the fight. Yamamoto is not actually slow but IMO his speed has never been proportional to his forte which is offense. Insane, unrelenting, unforgiving offense. Even yamamoto's defense destroyed basically everything... Even aizen got a hit on him (yama took advantage of said hit but a hit is a hit). I don't think it is that weird yamamoto would take that hit considering everything. Yamamoto was just a man, and one who lost his greatest asset at that.
That said, I doubt yamamoto is defeated just yet. He took a hit but for the most part that sort of hit has never finished a shinigami yet. He is definitely heavily wounded and is definitely running out of time but as things are there is no particular reason for him to not be able to have a final stand. Even if he lost his bankai he still has the insane reiatsu which powered it behind him. Yamamoto is not the sort to go without a bang.
I love how Yamamoto is praised to be some sort of an unstoppable God who cannot be defeated by nomal means or in a one on one combat situation. I love how people say things like Bach(the real one) needed the distraction of the fake in order to take down Yamamoto.
What I saw this chapter in Yamamoto eyes was despair and the reality that he just went ALL OUT on a fake who Bach himself(though praised his efforts) never gave a second thought eliminating him like some weak trash.
Just look at this panel: "WHAT KIND OF A MONSTER ARE YOU?"
Yamamoto appears to be devastated that he used his FULL POWER against a Fake
What I saw was a bach who apparently considered visting Aizen(though immortal) who is powerless more important than fighting Yamamoto because he could have easily stolen Yamamoto's bankai anytime he wanted http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/87352149/16
What I saw was the realisation that Yamamoto himself probably knew that fighting an opponent of Bach level using only his shikai and Kido arts is simply not enough to defeat him.
Those who said Yamamoto may have had a chance using only shikai must have seriously skipped this page http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/87352149/15
Bach says he can handle Yamamoto's bankai.
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Last edited by Kay3795; October 02, 2012 at 09:33 PM.
Although it's painful to saw Yamaji going down like that but the story must go on to show SS is destroyed. I guess next chapter, Yuha Bach will use Yamaji Bankai to pulverize SS to ashes and all shinigami will retreat to some safe places. All captains will shock what happen to Yamaji and their spirit to fight is gone. But i do hope Unohana will do something in the current situation, she should not sit there and put the fate on Yamaji shoulder alone.. she should do something useful to safe Shinigami & SS "Dignity". However, i still believe Yamaji alive but no longer available to fight anytime soon.
Let's say your an immortal and I shot you in the brain. Or cut your head off and destroy it. Are you still alive?.
Unless you can heal any part of your body (which would truly make you immortal) that's something else entirely. Plus, your dealing with Quincies and Kubo hasn't revealed what these types of beings can do yet. Besides, a few techniques and weapons, there's no full understanding of the true potential of the Quincy. So far though, they are relentless in battle and kill without remorse.
People just want Aizen to come back and will rationalize any plausible reason for him returning. Kubo throws a mere panel shot (from a previous chapter) and a few words from the newest villain mentioning Aizen's name and people's panties get wet. It's not that serious.
What is actually "serious" is the fact that Yamamoto has fallen and he's the foundation of the Gotei 13 and Soul Society. With him gone, things are going to get worse for the good guys.
p.s., I'm rooting more for Grimmjow to return. That would make more sense logcially, since after Harribel being defeated, he's the last remaining Espada alive in Hueco Mundo.
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Your saying Ichigo in that mode was on Yamamoto's "Bankai" level?. really?. Yet, Ichigo still had trouble with the Fullbringers and now can't even spark up enough power to free himself from Kirge's prison?. And some mystery person has to save his @$$?.
really people, get off Aizen's ***k.
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Also Ichigo didn't have trouble with the fullbringers when he gained his Shinigami powers.
WHAT DO YOU KNOW OF Kirge's PRISON???
Last edited by Kay3795; October 02, 2012 at 09:55 PM.
They had the same amount of time to prepare. VR maintained observation of SS and planned to fight them. The Shinigami did nothing, even though they knew Bach was out there. Which ties into my main point, mainly that Yamamoto's an incompetent leader.Quote:
In war all fights are fair fights. Even if I went with your convenient definition of fair, we have no clue how Bach would really fare against Yama.Quote:
I too think he'll go out with a bang, and doubt that slash is the end, but Yamamoto's finished, and since bach has his bankai, so is the rest of soul society.Quote:
Immortality implies certain things in order to live you must be able to heal among other things so if I were shot or decapitated I would eventually heal if I was immortal that is what it means. Think about it why would Aizen be imprisoned if he could have been executed think back rukia was going to be executed for far less severe crimes than Aizen and execution was the punishment for her. Why would they give Aizen an extended imprisonment if he could be killed? Why would they risk having him become a enemy again when they barely escaped his plan the first time?
Back to the chapter, Ichigo has to be working his way out at this point how long has he been locked in that cage. I know in manga time he has only been trapped maybe an hour or less but Kubo seems to be dragging this out quite a bit.
somehow this page would disagree with that sentiment
we all kno yama has to die, but it snot over till its over
oh but wait there's more, here's a prediction from this morning
Last edited by SaitoSpike; October 02, 2012 at 10:28 PM.