One thing that I noticed is that Juha asked Aizen if he wanted to be in his army as a special war potential; Juha is not offering to join Aizen, but is offering Aizen to join him. That suggests to me that Juha is in fact more powerful than Aizen!
He's the king of the Quincy and has just proven to be strong enough to handle Yamas bankai. Why would he have a reason to offer himself to some jailed shinigami? Being a war potential should be of quiet a level too, only that Aizen might not care about the 'normal' time restrictions anymore just so he could achieve a win of his own. ^^
From what I gathered bach's point was that he was the only one actually capable of stealing and using yamamoto's bankai succesfully. That is still not quite the same as him being able to fight that bankai. It is plausible he would be a match for yamamoto's bankai although what we have seen just yet is far from conclusive. As for aizen, I do think that if he comes back to the story he will do so as a normal shinigami and the power he had as a shinigami. His position in terms of power regarding bach would be ambiguous too though, he was in fact a monster when it came to power too.
No, we are all assuming Aizen isnt quite as strong as Bach..though to say that a man who mastered all 4 basic forms of Shinigami combat and reached his max, ISNT anywhere near Bach's level is wrong. To me, if Aizen and Yama-ji would be very close in terms of strength UNRELEASED. When Aizen sealed up Yama's sword, one translation stated "in a fight between us, the strength of your sword far outweighs mine." So in terms of speed and hand to hand we dont know Aizen's limit cause he always used illusions. Idk why everyone only assumes that Aizen is barely above Shunsui and Ukitake in terms of strength..he's not, he's far above. Far enough at-least that he had control over all the Espada and still without illusions took out Lisa, Komomura, Love and Rose in that fight. When he created Wonderweiss he stated that He too had twice the reaitsu of a shinigami captain
Listen I'm not saying Aizen is God or anything crazy like that, but Bach must weary of Aizen. I think Bach wanted Aizen so that he could keep tabs on him. Because besides Ichigo, with Yama dead, Aizen poses the next greatest potential threat.
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that reply is to LeKuaSimi, as kkck basically stated the same thing as me
If juha's actual objective was along the lines of keeping tabs on aizen then he definitely took all the wrong approaches in regards to that. Why ask him to join if he could be safely contained in such a way that keeping tabs on him is not an issue? Why allow him that chance to even roam freely? Why just leave him there if there is so much as a shred of a chance of him ever escaping? From what I gather bach saw aizen as a potential ally rather than anything else for some reason. Either he had enough reasons to trust a potential enemy like that or he thought he could handle him with his power (or perhaps as he becomes the king or something).
I agree everything you just said, I might only add that throughout the chaos created within Soul Society, Bach might have figured Aizen's escape was inevitable..though perhaps not, he is bound down there, who the heck is crazy enough to let him out? Dunno, but Aizen's release IS inevitable, regardless of how it happens. I'm sure Bach knows that. Actually, if Aizen thought he could never escape by his own means, whould he not have just agreed, then betrayed Bach afterwards?
Hard to say at this point, but yes, we the readers would think Aizen would rather ally himself with the current enemy than soul society. (though he now just turned Bach down) However IF (and that's a mighty big if cause we don't know Bach's motives or plans) Bach wants the complete and total annihilation of all shinigami, and perhaps Hollow as well, maybe it would be advantageous fpr Aizen to either play a 3rd party creating a hate triangle (though He has no living allies that we know of so I don't know how he would pull off being an army of 1); or perhaps (and most unlikely of all scenarios) ally himself temporarily with Soul Society. Aizen wanted to rule and change the world, shape it to his liking, make it better. Not destroy it. Aizen is a hard read at every point in the story.
And Bach is stronger and more experienced than Aizen, making him something fierce. Fact is, Ichigo is going to need new training, "Quincy" training. I hope Kubo does this, it would be cool for Ichigo to use Quincy powers and Uryuu being the one to train him.
Kinda of makes sense, with the general idea of the manga itself, the character development might become to predictable.
Imagine an Azien + Ichigo Vs ....
The only reason Szayel was able to negate Renji's bankai or Uryuu's arrows was because he had samples to analyze. Assuming that Mayuri learned how to negate attacks or abilities by using the experiments in Szayel's lab, he would have to examine Sasakibe's body or any of the dead 1st division shinigami to learn how to do it, and that would have been extremely disrespectful for the dead and Yamamoto, and even if he had been allowed to do that, the only person Mayuri would be able to restrain would have been Driscoll, and having Mayuri kill him would have been counter productive for Yamamoto's role this arc.Quote:
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now its the right time for the senior captains to show their true mettle..there's a reason why kubo still hiding their bankai and i believe that their bankai can at least do something in this war..perhaps at least prevented the shinigami from completely being wipe out by Juha and escape soul society..but there's a possibility too that the zero squad will be appeared knowing the death of yamamoto..