Yama was the one to die because he had nothing left to offer. I know that Neither do some of those characters that you mentioned but Yama was old. He wasn't going to experience anything new in his life. Anything that we could learn about him will be shown in flashbacks. Also he needed to die because if he was still alive everybody would be like "well its not like we actually need to worry. Yama will come and PWN anybody that fucks with SS!!11!". This way it feels like the war is really hopeless. Kubo did a bold thing and im hoping it pays off.
A real question that needs to be asked is, why are the stolen Banka's still working with their users dead. Does the medallion somehow trap the Zanpaktou spirit inside and subdue it? I remember Hitsugaya trying but failing at his attempt to talk to Hyorinmaru.....What is the implication of this given that Zanpaktous are part of their owner's spirits?
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I didn't bother to take notice of it in the first look through but, you have to admire Yamamoto's will, even with his body sliced in half and hand sliced off, inches away from death his blade was still whole til the end. If anything I think the reason why Bach did overpower Yamamoto the way he did was because of Yamamoto's foolish code of honor, by not letting his arm be healed by Orihime he did lower his overall strength, had it not been for then that perhaps he would have been able to parry the attack better but to parry an attack from the left side and lacking an arm is a tad harder. Bach Basically attacked Yamamoto on his exposed side and he had no real way of defending himself from the strike.
It is quite the brutal death though, just like his own subordinates Bach leaves no trace of him. That's quite a viscous way to eliminate a target. I'm hoping the one that breaks through next chapter isn't ichigo, Bach's surprised/worried expression doesn't make much sense in the matter if it was Ichigo he wouldn't act so surprised but his surprised expression seems to be for another reason. I would think that perhaps the Royal Guards have readied themselves quicker than bach anticipated so now he'll have to deal with that before retreating. Either that or the explosion may have come from the one that was pointing the blade at Urahara. Let's say the one that pointed the blade at Urahara was a royal guard, they may have just decided to take him in for his "crimes" along with the fact he pretty much put two humans in danger when last seen Chad had holes in him and it's hard to tell if the same happened to Orihime.
Most likely the reason why we haven't gotten the reveal yet is because it should be mentioned next chapter, there may be a few panels that show what happened to Urahara and then perhaps the chapter will end with a reveal of what shocked Bach so much. Definitely gonna be a pain waiting for this chapter though, left it with quite the interesting cliffhanger, and Yamamoto being eliminated in the way he was does definitely make for some interesting character develop hopefully as we get to see how everyone copes with it and perhaps the royal guards intervening to perhaps temporarily take the position for the Squad 1 leader.
He didn't dodge for several reasons:
1) The dramatic effect. Like you said earlier Mangas don't always apply real world logic and common sense If they did a lot of stuff wouldn't be a epic and kubo wouldn't have a chance to show off his sexy drawing skills that take up an entire page.
2) He was surprised. He had just got his bankai stolen and he was still processing the fact that he hadn't killed the real bach.
3) Yama doesn't really like dodging lol. When have we ever seen Yama dodge something? About to get stabbed in the cut but the main villain so what should i do? Tank it! About to get pummeled by some hollow with 100 arms so what should i do? Tank it! He doesn't really dodge people too often.
4) Bach is powerful. Maybe you are just underestimating Bach too much. Maybe Yama just wasn't fast enough to react. Bach is obviously powerful and now that he has Yama's bankai he might be the most powerful person in the manga to date.
I hate stupid cliffhangers... And tbh im not pissed at all for Yama dying, Logic has been dead in Bleach for a long time.
I wonder if that is Ichigo or Urahara and co. Or maybe the Zero division.
I think(like Bach said) Yamamoto was just outclassed.
Why is it so hard to imagine someone who is almost as old as Yamamoto kicking Yamamoto's butt(even if it was easily).
Bach never stopped getting stronger, he never stopped being ruthless, he continued to get stronger by whatever means while Yamamoto stopped all that 1000 years ago.
The way Yama-jii died is very sad but if Juha showed any respect to him then that would be a big contradiction in his character. Juha doesn't give two shits about his most loyal soldiers because he believes that anything other than instilling complete fear and execution of brutal annihilation is being weak. His philosophy is despicable but you have to expect that when it comes to him especially when he was killing an opponent . White Beard would have had a similar fate when he met his death as Yama-jii had it not been for Shanks stopping Akainu.
So was Yama-jii's death sad? Yes it was but to call it without dignity is absurd because he stood his grounds even when he knew it meant death. The way Juha kills his opponents and even followers is what's without dignity.
Kubo-sensei, I don't know what to expect anymore. Thank you
And that's all I wanted, and I've said it before...from the reader's perspective there was really no point in trying, but by trying he would've added a bit more positive vibe to this incident...all I wanted is just see him try, that's all
the way I see it, its not like kubo wanted yamaji to die like this, feels more like he wants to rush to story to a certain point, shows how eager he is to introduce zero division.
The thing I actually really disliked was Yama's humilation like stepping on his head, but more importantly, when we saw Mohawk guy only burnt a bit... it was really the moment I felt sorry for Yama as at this point it looks like all he did during the Arc was in vain if in the end we'll see all the guys he was supposed to burn to ashes will be ok at the end...
Haha, that I can't really argue with...at least in this there's consistency in his character...but in all previous situations, Yama was way more powerful and able to tank those hits...Bach escaped his grasp once, so we know, and he knew too, that Back is insanely more powerful than any of the adversaries that have come before...so the situation changed...I like versatility in a character, just like how Byakuya used hand to hand combat the last arc, Yama could've used shunpo...it is a basic ability after all...Quote:
The thing is that the entire sequence of Bach vs Yama was drawn out and made to appear as not that fast...Bach has all the time in the world to set up his own technique, and then he uses one slash to cut Yama in two....I think the matter is that I was overestimating Yama...I don't know Bach's limits, so I can't be underestimating him, just yet...Quote: