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Unohana could have also fought Kenpachi in the human world while they were still alive, and both died. But it doesn't matter. What matters is that if they did fight, it was a fight between two bloodthirsty killers who enjoyed tearing their opponents into flesh confetti.
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@Torran, how on earth could they label Kenpachi as useless, when he's the only one aside from Yama who defeated a Stern Ritter, not to mention three, and was even labeled as a war potential by the enemy? Just because Kenpachi doesn't have a Bankai people think he's the weakest, yet Kenpachi's one of the captains Kubo rarely ever craps on. He's only lost(technically a draw) to the main character, and the main antagonist of this arc. Kenpachi is freaking strong. He's a beast. He's not weak. It's just part of the story dude, there's nothing to even argue about....
What the hell are you going to say if it turns out Unohana fought Kenpachi and he just wounded her, no excuses or anything?
Torran, Kenpachi fought on par with two captains and even with the strongest Espada, for crying out loud. There's a far cry between saying that he isn't the strongest Shinigami (he isn't) and that he's the weakest captain (he SURE AS SHIT isn't).
I mean, it's in the manga. Read the manga. Could it be that you just don't like the guy? If so, do like the Hitsugaya hate-club and mock him whenever you can, that's fine.
1- Kenpachi's fight was irrelevant and pointless for the first invasion.
2- It would have been a waste of time to show his fight when it was clear he couldn't cut through Blut Vene.
3- That page where he was shown lifted from the ground and unconscious was a storytelling tool.
& No the espada is not ABC. The mere fact that a downpowered (hollow was downpowered) Ichigo who had less than half his reiatsu toyed with the slow ass monster, Yammy (someone Rukia had no problems dodging) until his mask got broken speaks volumes.
The mere fact that an unskilled noobie who just got his shinihami powers outmaneuvered Zaraki also says alot but the most interesting part of it is that, Aizen made Zaraki the very first captain test dummy to improve Ichigo's progression in power. A practice dummy for Ichigo to get stronger for the real challenge to come. Funny ain't it?
A short range brute that disregards sanity just for the sake of enjoying battles (lacking basic skills) is not, I repeat, NOT the strongest shinigami (the name Kenpachi suggest so but this further proves how worthless that title must be in the new day & age of shinigami).
Last edited by Kay3795; January 16, 2013 at 06:55 PM.
I give up. This is pointless and begins to stray off-topic. I guess Kenpachi is the weakest captain.
On another note, I just noticed Asauchi's eyes are mouths. Gross.
But I wouldn't say it's pointless. The amount of people saying Zaraki is the second most powerful captain or forth most powerful captain in forums is just wow. This is the only forum where people can atleast listen 9atleast incomparation to the other forums full of massively ignorant individuals).
I guess it was Royd whom Kenpachi fought, there was no reason for Bach to waste his valuable time on Kenpachi and risk getting noticed by Yamamoto. I think Bach waited until Yamamoto left the headquarters and sneaked in afterwards. That said I'm positive that Royd was no average SR, he was probably among the best. Both Yamamoto and Kenpachi saw his reiatsu worthy of a leader, he couldn't possibly be as weak as other SRs, he might be on Haschwald's level. He skillfully dodged Yamamoto's attacks and he even cast the strongest spell of quincies, I doubt every SR is capable of that. I also think Bach made Royd's blut vene stronger at a cost (perhaps vastly reduced lifespan), so Yamamoto failed to notice a discrepancy between Bach and Royd's relative strengths. All in all, I believe Royd was much stronger than his brother, so it's no surprise that Kenpachi couldn't put up much of a fight.
What exactly really differentiate him from an ordinary sternritter? His special abiltity (each sternritters have his or her special ability). That's it!!
A ability that enables him to copy the characteristics of an individual. A ability that enables him to copy the MEMORIES & appearence of whom he choose.
What benefits did this ability give his against Yamamoto? Since Juha Bach had witnessed Yamamoto's strength to some extent, Royd, copying the memories of Juha was aware of Yamamoto's strength thus he was aware that he ought to be careful when dealing with the old man.
That was the advantage the other sternritters didn't have.
The other sternritters exemplified arrogance, ignorance, naivety & cluelessness. http://www.mangastream.to/bleach-cha...4-page-13.html http://www.mangastream.to/bleach-cha...06-page-9.html http://www.mangastream.to/bleach-cha...6-page-20.html http://www.mangastream.to/bleach-cha...2-page-14.html http://www.mangastream.to/bleach-cha...6-page-14.html http://www.mangastream.to/bleach-cha...6-page-15.html http://www.mangastream.to/bleach-cha...6-page-16.html http://www.mangastream.to/bleach-cha...6-page-17.html http://www.mangastream.to/bleach-cha...17-page-4.html http://www.mangastream.to/bleach-cha...7-page-16.html http://www.mangastream.to/bleach-cha...8-page-16.html http://www.mangastream.to/bleach-cha...8-page-20.html http://www.mangastream.to/bleach-cha...20-page-8.html http://www.mangastream.to/bleach-cha...0-page-12.html http://www.mangastream.to/bleach-cha...26-page-6.html
So many pages full of these characteristics (arrogant, ignorant, cluelessness, naivety & etc).
The sternritters had no idea of the enemy they were fighting (unlike Royd who knew a great deal about Yamamoto) & because of that, they were killed in a stupid fashion, not even using the true powers of the devastating Vollstandig.
Vollstandig/Letzt Stil is an ability that allows the quincies to go beyond the limits. An ability that makes them reach their very peak & beyond http://www.mangastream.to/bleach-cha...24-page-4.html http://www.mangastream.to/bleach-chapter-125.html http://www.mangastream.to/bleach-cha...25-page-6.html http://www.mangastream.to/bleach-cha...4-page-13.html http://www.mangastream.to/bleach-cha...05-page-1.html http://www.mangastream.to/bleach-cha...05-page-8.html http://www.mangastream.to/bleach-cha...05-page-9.html http://www.mangastream.to/bleach-cha...5-page-10.html
Vollstandig is even stronger than than Letzt Stil. It isn't as fragile & was improved upon.
So, a powerful quincy like Kirge (quincy noted to be above captain class) using Vollstandig, got brutally crushed by some fraccion's beast whose power was easily stopped like this http://www.mangastream.to/bleach-cha...1-page-12.html Do you know why?
Kirge didn't have any idea the beast will pack the punch it did. He received info on the daten how dangerous Ichigo would be thus he made sure to alway be careful BUT against allon (created by 3 fraccion he just crushed in seconds), he didn't expect it's strength to be anything special http://www.mangastream.to/bleach-cha...6-page-20.html
An individual that can tank a humongous GT from the recent Ichigo to the neck (greatly boosted by the power of Vollstandig) http://www.mangastream.to/bleach-cha...5-page-11.html http://www.mangastream.to/bleach-cha...5-page-12.html http://www.mangastream.to/bleach-cha...5-page-13.html
& his bankai slash by making sure his Blut Vene is at full power (100%) at all times http://www.mangastream.to/bleach-cha...2-page-18.html
Almost got killed by 3 fraccion's summon single punch because of his ignorance.
So again, the only thing that sets Royd apart from his fellow sternritters was the memories of Juha (which made him sharper to situations).
The others died like idiots (like Kirge almost did against Allon).
Besides the ability of copying appearances & memories, Royd merely he used all the techs his fellow sternritters members used or can use. Vollstandig, Heilig Pfeil, Sklaverei, Blut (Vene & Arterie), Medallion, Hirenkyaku, Sankt Zwinger & etc
guys relax, kenpachi got beat cause royd or lloyd copied bach. kenpachi said the other twin copied himm through this they gain all theyre sats and kenpachi said he had to become stronger than the clone to beat him. the other one copied bach if they gain all the abilities of the person they copied that means rroyd or was on par with bach, so it doesnt make kenpachi weak, it just shows how badass bach is, cause if a clone beat kenpachi then the real deal must be god status.
Royd didn't gain any power from Juha. His ability is to copy memories & appearance. He only gained the memories of Juha.
Loyd is the one that can copy power & appearance.
So Zaraki got beat by Royd's own skills, not Juha's.