Here, he says that one of the four emperors has used smile(present perfect tense, meaning from some time in the past up until now) to make a army of fruit users.
As for Dofla's trouble, it might be loosing his connection upon which his wicked schemes are built xD
Also, I have been thinking that Monosuke's fruit is probably not Vegapunk's fruit. Instead it is probably made by DD, who sent it to Ceasar as evidence of the production of smile. Cesar then as a scientist thought that he will study the DD's smile fruit to find an easier way of producing an artifical fruit. In this sense, the creation of smiley could have been the result of the strudy of Monosuke's fruit.
Also, I want to ask a question does anyone think that Smile is weaker or stronger than a normal Zoan fruit.
It began like this:
Luffy entered the fray with his kickass Elephant Gun and patted BB. He had an informative conversation with CC, and as soon as CC was looking down on his strength, comparing it to what gives him chills down his spine lol, Luffy remained silent, and then he shattered that silence with a kickass punch, but it was ruined with what we're talking about: the long sentence and the continuity of his punch, which I believe was in a bad chronological order :X
Damn some of you truly can't be blessed. Nitpicking isn't always a good thing. I'm satisfied as long as this is the end of Ceaser Clown. Only then is this chapter epic. Otherwise blah. Let's finish this fight with Vergo and get a move on with the story please.
Agreed about too much about Luffy's punches(even though i'm the one that started it, so i should end it too, correct?). Lets agree to disagree for the time being.
I do speak japanese (11 years of it), In re-guards to the Single Yonkou vs Plural Yonkou its like this;(sorry if i'm repeating a lil of what was said before)
Younkou is the title of "four Emperors", in Japanese there is no Singular or Plural of the Noun "YONKOU". This being the case, The Japanese have created a "counter" noun to describe the AMOUNT of any given person/thing. Depending on What you are counting, the "counter" word itself changes; just to give you an idea of what i mean, the "counter" you would use for Humans is Different then the word for Circular objects which is different from counters for Small items, ect. In the case of The Yonkou, i would assume the "counter" word for Humans would be used-"nin". though there are two exceptions to this counter; 1 person is "hitotsu" and 2 people are "futatsu", then the system follows the basic Japanese counting system 3"san-nin" 4 "yon-nin" ect. So-i would assume to refer to a single "yonkou" would be; "Hitotsu-Yonkou"-"one person of the Four Emperors" or in english "one yonkou". Hope you guys enjoyed your Japanese lesson for the day
lastly, I think we should assume no power difference between ADF and natural Zoan DFs-besides the "basic strength" any individual would be born with. (luffy no gumu gumu no mi vs CC with no gas gas no mi, i still would take Luffy as the one with more Natural Strength, think Zoro lol-not the best example i guess w/e)
LOL, you guys really take seriously reading One Piece.
Who cares if it's one or the four Yonkous? We will know eventually which one uses the smiles and who doesn't.
Who cares if the arm is the left or right? Just a mistake from Oda.
Who cares if in manga you can speak a whole sentence faster than a punch?
And I think some of you got things wrong: Caesar does SAD. SAD is used by Doflamingo to make Devil Fruits. CC doesn't make the ADF (From now on, I'll refer like this to Artificial Devils Fruits) He has the brute matter, so to speak.
If Law wants to kidnap CC, must be to tease one of the Yonkou to pressure Doflamingo, who will point towards Luffy and Law. Should be fun.
My prediction for next chapter- Either a recap of what Franky was/has been doing or WHAT the hell brook/usopp/kinemon been up to? plan is still to capture CC using seastone cuffs yes? and why the hell does cc have horns? will they disappear revealing he ate a gas/ADF combo? just throwing out ideas for discussion...TOO MANY QUESTIONS!!!!!
What I wonder is why CC is the only one able to make SAD. Is it because only him has discovered the process and he didn't tell anyone else or is it because of his gas gas fruit ?
And also, what was the purpose of Vegapunk experimentation with artifitial devil fruits. Because if he was trying to create a usable artifitial devil fruit, then Doflamingo + Ceasar succeed in what Vegapunk failed.
Last edited by ukimix; November 22, 2012 at 02:13 PM.
Well...He has an unique ability after all and He's a scientist. There are too many things on his favor. Vegapunk could also make a DF as well, so I'm biased to think it has more to do with brains than power.
However, if the original Japanese dialogue said "Don Flamingo! Ano Yonkou!" (which is did from what it sounds like) then it would mean "The Don Flamingo! The members of the Four Emperors!" because "Ano" is a word that means something like "That" or "The" in reference to something that is mentioned in passing.
It'd make so much more sense if I had the Japanese raw and could translate it for you guys to see.
Last edited by Brandnewkid; November 22, 2012 at 03:48 PM.