Ben beckmen is da man, but even though the marines would still win unless if shanks is actually as strong as whitebeard at his prime which I'm beginning to think is true.
Hard to say.Even if he got stabbed,it wouldn't do as much damage like it did to the 82 year old WB.But shanks didn't show any DF abilities up to now.Imagine the encircling walls get activated.WB couldn't even break it down.It just dented it.What can shanks do?And WB had to send an earthquake to make the marines loose their footing whereas shanks cant do that.Using CoC to knock out the marines?.And im still wondering why didn't WB use his CoC.-.-
Let me put it simply: Whitebeard got as far as he did not due to his own power, but his family watching his back.
Whitebeard's crew measured 1600 pirates, plus a large number of New World pirates to accompany that. Without these numbers, lesser marines (and I'm not even talking "super lesser", but captains + rear admirals, etc) would have had more free reign. And as strong as you are, at the end of the day a legion can overwhelm you.
Shanks' crew is definitely weaker than Whitebeard's in regards to numbers, though strength is hard to gauge (the division commanders weren't dissapointing after all). What probably would be the deciding factor would be whether Shanks could pull in allies. I mean, imagine if the Pacifistas and Sentomaru had hit WB's crew directly instead of the New World pirates. The battle would not have taken long to devastate the numbers of the pirates until only the strong ones remained.
At the end of the day, without those numbers, even if Shanks was worth 2 whitebeards in strength alone, he would not have won.
Shanks wouldn't fare any better than Whitebeard did. In terms of military power, he's close to WB, but we've already seen what 1 Yonkou (+ crew) can do the World Government: Lose. MHQ + 7BK win this war with mid-difficulty.
Even with BB appearance,i dont think he would do much damage.WB alone was enough to make BB begged for his life.Imagine WB+Shanks VS BB.I'll leave it up to ur imagination
i think shanks wouldn't stand a chance.. he doesn't have allies like WB had.. he could go toe to toe early, heck i think he can take 2 admirals at once but it would take its toll and eventually hed get defeated.
Shanks in the other hand is human. I know "humans" include Zoro and Sanji who can take a lot of damage, but being impaled alive is no good.
AND if it means the same sword Squardo used, that thing was enormous, the result would be worse than the attack of Akainu on Ace
The Shichibukai worked against the government. Of the eight, four of them betrayed the government. And Jinbei ready so sacrifice himself and Hancock destroyed the Pacifista certain worked much better for Whitebeard side than the lazy Doflamingo and Mihawk who don't care about the conflict served for the government.
So for me it count as the government alone against the Whitebeard pirates...
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Shanks' military power is less that than WB's. Keep in mind the Shichibukai will be fighting in this war too. Shanks doesn't have what it takes to win this fight.
BB is a nonfactor in this fight. He's the one who is actually locked up and about to be executed in this scenario.Quote:
how many allies does shanks have? whitebeard had 40+ pirate captains..
Shanks can't win this. Not only Whitebeard had his entire 1600 people fighting with him, but he also had the help of 43 crews from the New World.
And Shanks is probably isn't nowhere near as destructive as Whitebeard.
Whitebeard was called the strongest man in the world in several occasions. I agree with Samui, it doesn't make sense to judge someone stronger than Whitebeard, and comparing someone to Whitebeard in his prime just make things worst...
The WB alliance was said to be the most powerful one. I can't see Shanks and his allies win this. (yes he has most likely allies. It's a theory which I have been supporting since Garp's explanation. It turned out to be true on WB's case, even before his allies were introduced.) Especially if Ben Beckman, who is definitely a high tier himself is captured.
dark lord I believe u misunderstood sth there. It's not like the MHQ shit their pants as they saw Shanks. They just realised that their goals were fulfilled, so any further waste of power was meaningless. Furthermore the MHQ and every other force out there were exhausted, unlike the red-hair pirates.
Also claiming Shanks to be on par with WB prime makes no sense. WB was still holding the title, which Sengoku confirmed several times. So Shanks was at most around old WB's lvl, not his prime.
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