Let's not forget Yama was worn out by the time the real Juha appeared as mentioned by Toby, jumping straight to bankai and demonstrating 4 of his techniques will require a vast amount of reiatsu despite how short or fast it was. Lloyd actually managed to do a pretty good job as far as luring Yama down to probably less than 50% of his reiatsu already.
We haven't seen Kyouraku, Ukitake, and Unohana's bankai as well;
a.) We all know Ukitake mentioned about Kyouraku's bankai to be dangerous and something that shouldn't be shown
b.) Unohana being the first Kenpachi gives major speculation about her attributes as a fighter which is quite high
c.) We shouldn't count out Ukitake as well just because he's ill, he's still the top three senior captains.
For Kenpachi to be able to stand up to Juha isn't too far off, I never said he'll be able to beat Juha, but being able to give him a fair fight is good enough with his power-up most likely.
It says a lot about Zaraki's potential if Kyouraku is willing to stand up against the central 46 and to have the first Kenpachi identity revealed in order to make him stronger. These are things that are definitely shouldn't be taken lightly and be easily counted out.
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But I could be wrong of course. It should become clearer when we find out what the Stern Ritter are truly capable of. Kenpachi killing 3 of them did kind of diminish their image, though.
I don't have any idea about the others, but I don't expect captains in Shikai to be able to stand up to Vollstandig, so, it's more than likely that they didn't use it.
I guess all we can do is wait and see what Unohana does with him. Logically, he shouldn't become stronger, just more skilled. But who knows what the results will be?
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We all know that most weekly mangas are better read in bigger chunks, especially Bleach...so I reread this arc and I arrived to the chapter where the RG arrived...and with the revelations of this week's chapter(Kyouraku talking about the art of killing and Unohana revealed as Kenpachi) the last panels of this page and the the first panels of this page are really interesting...the meaning of those facial expressions and words really fall in place and frankly it got me more excited
"What you're meant to do right now is not healing" somehow points me into the area of killing...mercilessly and possibly reviving the murderous beginnings of the 13 divisions...words like art of killing are used in this chapter, which hopefully will balance the overwhelming abilities of the Quincy...
PS: for those who can't access the link...I'm talking about chapter 517 where the RG just grabbed the injured and Unohana interjects
Looking back that chapter was some massive foreshadowing...You can even see the emphasis on Retsu...
I guess she just stopped being Battosai and went all Kenshin, the wander samu- whoops wrong manga
Really looking forward to her first fight and the true extent of her abilities...
I just realized that Zaraki must have known that Restu was the first Kenpachi.
Remember how he was the one to give a name to Yachiru (his lieutenant).
He said that he gave her the name Yachiru because that was the name of the only person he ever admired.
So that means that he must have known, right?
Or maybe he heard about her, but never figured out that it was Unohana...
I can't wait to see them work together!
Unohana giving up the title on her own does also make sense, since she seems to converted to the healer type later on.
Is that how the title of Kenpachi is passed along? I thought it worked the same as Captaincy of any other squad, and being made Captain of the 11th automatically made you Kenpachi; so the previous one can step down or retire, like Unohana seems to have done. But then, given the implications of the title itself, I guess it would make sense for it to be passed along by killing the previous owner. If that's true, then Kenpachis have been getting progressively stronger through Soul Society's history. But I'm sure the only reason the 2nd Kenpachi could ever take the title is because Unohana willingly stepped down.
I wonder what Kenpachi's feelings are towards her if he knows that she is indeed Yachiru. Her fearsome reputation might mean it's common knowledge that she's an ex-Kenpachi. If he does know, I imagine he's got a lot of contempt for her - he probably thinks she went soft or something. I'm quite eager to see their training sessions, I bet he won't know what hit him when she swings that sword of hers, lol. It's also funny that her Minzuki is a healing-type Zanpakuto. That would mean that her entire reputation as a legendary killer was built up without the use of her Shikai. Maybe it's a similar case to Yumichika's Zan, where she forcibly makes the Shikai work differently from it's intended purpose.
Well, killing the previous captain of the squad in question is a factual way of becoming a captain of the squads (which fits beautifully with yamamoto at some point being a deranged killer). And the manga did confirm the current kenpachi killed the previous one, it was a bit of a plot point when he fought tousen. I think it was said that it was a tradition in the 11th division to actually have the captain titles passed along like that, by killing the previous captain although maybe I got that fact wrong.
Its not necessarily common knowledge that unohana was at some point the kenpachi. The issue at hand would be the fact that she was the kenpachi at the very least 1000 years ago. That is an enormous amount of time and as far as we have seen members of the 13 squads have relatively low life expectancies compared to how long they can actually live if unkilled(kyoraku, ukitake and unohana are the only remaining members of the guard from 200 years ago and the vizards got kinda lucky that urahara and yoruichi saved them). Just now over 2000 shinigami got killed by vandenreich for that matter. So how many people can possibly remain that actually knew or even saw unohana as a kenpachi? I guess among civilian nobles it could be common knowledge however among shinigami it would be quite strange in my opinion that there are more than a few survivors who even remember that.
Yeah. She could be feared just as a known sword master. I suppose all Captains are feared to some degree, at least by the subordinates who don't know them personally. This is what I had in mind, btw:
Those guys could know who she was, or they might just know her as 'scary Captain Unohana'.
But I would imagine the 11th squad at least has records of it's previous Captains. Still, the fact that she ditched the name Yachiru might in part be specifically so people don't find out that she was the first Kenpachi. It seems like she's done everything she can to get as far away from that lifestyle as possible. She actively avoids fighting opponents even when they're stood right before her, like Rudobon and Aizen. Her career in medicin is the very opposite of her career as a sword slayer; it's like she's trying to make up for all the lives she must have taken over the years. It wouldn't surprise me if she's taken steps to ensure people don't recognise her as Kenpachi no.1.
Shunsui for the win. I figured they would make him head captain after all he seems to be the only captain who has even a fraction of the strength Yamma possessed(we have not seen unohana yet) We have seen him showcase some of his fighting abilities in about two or three fights. He defeated starrk easily, while starrk was getting ready to defeat two captains. He WAS the only captain to defeat his initial opponent. Both Soifon and hitsu failed. And he was pretty much unscathed. In reality besides him I don't think anybody is fit for the job, Ukitake is sick, AND WE DONT KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT RETSU YET. Like him or not like him in reality he has been the captain that has shown the most abilities and the most potential. Wolfgang kummomara is a goddamn joke. Soifon does not posses any ability to make her a candidate, Hitsugaya is still too young, kempachi is a brute, Mayuri does not have fighting skills on a high enough level and Kensei what can we say about him. As hinted by ukitake shunsui also seems to posses some pretty badass bankai. And for those complaining about the fact that he did not handle his opponent in this arc, I shall remind you remind you guys that the shinigamis can't use their strongest weapon their bankais. Take away the sternritters Volstanding their bankai stealing abilities and lets see what happens in an all out battle.
As for retsu being the first kenpachi, I mean I'm not too shocked by it I mean we all knew she had a hidden past before no body could've predicted it was that but it seems to make some sort of sense