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Sizzles been in the league ten years now, not to soon to discuss his candidacy. He's more borderline than Reed, for sure, but I think he deserves recognition. Ngati has been in the league eight seasons, enough time to assess his career, though maybe a few more seasons are needed before declaring him a first ballot hall of famer. I think he's a lock, the best 34 down lineman of the last ten years. Not a guy that can be measured statistically, but has to be accounted for on every play.Quote:
I just think back to the years before he got his deal and awards and there were some real off years statistically. That could be the maturation process since he came into the league as the youngest player ever, who knows.
Ngata gets forgotten about, probably because of the loudmouths he plays with, but I never really thought of either of these guys as First Ballot, no. 8-10 years into Lewis' and Reed's careers you could see the greatness. Same with Ogden. I guess I forget about how easy it is to get into Canton, compared to Cooperstown. It's hard to remember that and separate your thought process. But I'm not going to argue with your opinion, I could see it happening.
I can see the greatness with Ngata. I guarantee he is one of the guys every offensive coordinator is accounting for. San Fransisco did not start their comeback after the blackout, they made it after Ngata was injured. He's a playmaker at a position usually featuring run stuffers. Assuming he has another two or three good seasons then he is a no doubt first ballot hall of famer. There really are no holes in his game, he does everything well.
Every time there is Football talk, the thread goes dead.
God help us all if a comment longer than a sentence is posted to this thread.
yet you break this rule so many times...
You're right about his versatility though. He has NT size, but elite pass-rushing skills. He was injured all year though, but even then his sack numbers fluctuate based on what he's asked to do. This year they played Cody and Kemoeatu at the NT position over the center so Ngata could play in the three gap. The other lineman is a wildcard. Trevor Price played there for a few years, so did Cory Redding. Pernell McPhee is young and can rush the passer, but who was out there was sometimes dictated by which LB was playing to the outside of them (Suggs, Kruger, Upshaw). There's so many defensive packages on defense nowadays it's ridiculous.....
Most 34 teams play with four down linemen during passing downs. Most 34 outside linebackers played end in college. Our pass rushers, Orakpo and Kerrigan, were both college ends, converted to linebackers as pros. Lawrence Taylor, the prototype 34 outside linebacker, also played end in college. It's rare to find college 43 linebackers who can play outside in a 34. Most are too small, or don't have the pass rush skills. Von Miller was actually a 34 outside linebacker in college, converted to weakside 43 linebacker in the pros.
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