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I think Magi is highly overrated. The first 50 chapters are plain boring, the combat systems are uninspired, the art is barely a step above Cage of Eden level derpyness, and even the good arcs have arc ruining characters like Kassim, Hakuryuu and Titus.
Tite Kubo is not a good artist. His style is generic, plain and boring. Most of his character designs are uncreative, and his paneling is full of obnoxious, wasteful closeups. Not to mention lack of backgrounds. And it is a complete waste to give this guy color pages most of the time. If the only colors he is going to use is the black and white of shinigami robes, skin color, and Renji's hair color, then the editors are better off giving the color page to someone else. I once saw someone say that Tite Kubo is the best weekly manga artist, but if we are going to go with a comparable, semi-realistic bishi style, I'd say Oh! Great completely outclasses Kubo.
I don't get what the big deal is about Osuma Tezuka. Yeah, I know he contributed a lot to shaping the industry as we know it, but I'm talking about his quality of work and how he is practically grandfathered in as automatically good by a lot of critics. I admit, I've only read a small fraction of his work, but I think I got a good sense of what he's all about with the range of titles I've tried(Ode to Kirihito, Princess Knight, Book of Human Insects, Buddha, Apollo's Song). Forgetting that I don't like his art, which I admit is a matter of opinion, his writing is kind of clumsy. The worst work I have read is 'Buddha', which I've heard regarded as a masterpiece. I strongly disagree. It is an extremely tedious read packed with misplaced, unfunny humor. Ode to Kirihito is okay but generic, Book of Human Insects started out good, but plummeted fast in the second half, Apollo's Song was interesting, but felt like an episode of the Twilight Zone. Princess Knight is easily the best work I have read of his because it was fun and entertaining, but it is nothing special compared to what's out there. Osamu Tezuka may have done a lot of things first, but a lot of other people followed him up an did it better.
I hate the Ohba/Obata duo and I sincerely hope that they don't team up again. Obata's best art was on Hikaru no Go and both Death Note and Bakuman suck. I'd love for Obata to team up with a really great writer and maybe move away from Shonen or at least away from Weekly Shonen Jump. Ohba can't finish a story and/or doesn't know when to stop. Everyone knows that Death Note fell off after L died and Bakuman's only redeeming quality was the manga industry info gimmick, which wore off quickly.
Vinland Saga is also highly overrated. It would be so much better if it was more grounded in realism. Thorkell and his inhuman strength really took me out of the story. Also, Canute is a terrible character. I've seen people laud his profound character development, and it's been a while since I read, but the way I remember it, one second he was a sniveling little boy afraid of his own shadow, and out of nowhere he did a complete 180 that was extremely unbelievable. It was poorly handled. His change should have been gradual.
I liked the Sasuke vs. Danzou fight, including the infamous Sharingarm, and I think that was the last good fight in 'Naruto'.
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Not to mention, the end was "I know what you were gonna do!" "I know that you knew what I was gonna do!" "Well, I knew that you knew that I knew what you were gonna do!" so on and on and finally, "Well, fuck you, you got me!"Quote:
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If I recall correctly, Canute's transformation was not sudden. His personality gradually changed while a hostage of Askeladd. Because of the timeskip it is is difficult to say what shaped his personality since Askeladd died.
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While I like magi a lot and even parade sometimes how "it's everything I wanted out of fairy tail and more"(in case anyone's wondering, yes I hate FT) every time I keep thinking if I consider it a favorite or not, I always seem to stop myself because there something that's either 'missing' or not quite right.
While I simply disagree on the first 50 chapters, I will say the combat system has more than likely been done before, but I've probably never seen it. I can also vouch for not being the biggest fan of certain panels and how sometimes the detail in character designs just...isn't there. In a recent chapter there was a full panel shot of Aladdin and his feet just looked like an bulged outline with some lines in it. As for the ruining characters, I completely agree with Kassiam, Hakuryuu...honestly had a aspect to him that I (very sadly) related to back when I was a kid, and I'm seeing signs of him pissing me off in the future so when that happens that will be especially painful. As far as Titus I don't feel he's as bad as kassiam was (in fact he may be the lesser evil considering
the only stupid thing I can recall him doing was his whole
Lastly a personal aspect that ticks me off with magi is this: WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO THE ADVENTURE?! Look, I don't mind the fact that they have to face al therman now as a enemy or anything, but now we're just stuck in this sort of "its your mission to head here and do x and y, and then head over to Z to do Q and W" that does not feel like an adventure to me, and with its setting I was really hoping there would be more of that, which was part of the reason I liked the beginning chapters. If I can make short in to why I myself like Magi its probably because for the first time in a while it felt like it was doing shonen right, not spectacularly or masterfully, but after fairy tail this was just what the doctor ordered for me.
I felt it was trying too hard to be philosophical and deep. There's nothing wrong with the premise -do the lives of criminals have sanctity just as any other individual?- over all, but I felt as if its execution fell flat somewhere down the line. There should be pros and cons attributed to both sides, but it seemed as if the scale tipped heavily to the pro-L side. (It doesn't help that it became harder and harder to be sympathetic to Light as the series progressed.)Quote:
I agree. Their exchange was cool the first time around, but then it got tiring.Quote:
I think I'm one of the few hunter x hunter fans who doesn't feel as though they need to find a 'darker and edgier' theme song to replace departure. Guys I get it the chimera ant arc is dark and stuff, but really I laughed at most song selections than feel 'pumped' for the arc (seriously how the hell do you get 'pumped' for gore?)
Guess since people are going all out, I should as well. Plz don't shun me after u read these.
1. I find 80s and 90s animation in anime far superior to modern. Reason is that computers were used less, and mostly everything was completely hand drawn. Everything seems more organic in earlier animation as a result.
2. Bleach died after the Soul Society Arc...and I'll agree with Tite Kubo being highly overrated.
3. Training arcs suck!
4. I enjoyed Madoka, but I find it was overhyped and is overrated. Seems many find it the best thing since sliced bread. It certainly was groundbreaking and different in some aspects, but I don't consider it a masterpiece.
5. I like heroes to be more masculine looking. Example: Guts from Berserk. There are far to many heroes in action manga/anime that are very slender and absent of muscle mass. Bishonen would be the extreme example of these, IRL they would be easily overpowered with that body frame.
6. Seinen is far superior to shounen.
7. I thought Kagome from Inuyasha was an abusive tyrant.
8. I don't like J-pop much
As for Canute; it's been a while, so you may be right. Somehow I just remember him being a wimp, then his father figure dies, and all of a sudden he talks to that monk and turns into a tough guy. Guess I need to reread. Maybe my library will get Kodansha USA's hardcover release this fall.
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And about the "arc ruining characters"; I can't even say that they are objectively poorly written. I just don't like them. They annoy me. Especially Titus. This current arc is one of my favorites, but Titus' part in it just seems so unnecessary and I think it would be better without that bit of melodrama.
Togashi is extremely overrated and doesn't deserve being defended for being too lazy to work on his manga and not giving a shit at all. HxH is probably like Toriko, not as good as people make it out to be. Pretty annoyed with how people defend Togashi when you actually have better and more hardworking mangaka like Oda and Kishi working on their manga, even if Kishi seems to not give a shit at all.
Hooboy. I got a big one.(pretty sure I'm the only one that thinks this...in the world)
I don't think Shingeki no Kyojin is good, at all.
When I read through it I came away with the impression it was just basically a mecha series with poor characters hiding behind "fleshy titan reskin". Other than the artwork I didn't find it enjoyable or impressive in almost any way. It's just Jack the Giant killer, the Incredible Hulk, and Gundam haphazardly smashed together.
It's because I like characters more than story that I vehemently hate Naruto as well. Once again it's as if Kishimoto took a shounen trope checklist and made sure he had each one without trying to vary them or make them unique in any way. Granted I stopped reading Naruto soon after part one ended, but from what I've heard it really only gets worse. What with characters having inconsistent motives and behaviors...and even their moves are inconsistent.
But yeah, I'm perfectly fine with a story that doesn't go anywhere as long as the characters are engaging. I'm sort of tired of the notion that something has to be a psychological thriller to be good, or dark and brooding to be worth the time of day. It's why I like Shounen more than seinen....stories that have a sense of spirit and adventure will always get me pumped. Of course I don't like how shounen manga tend to ignore their own internal sense of logic. I have a pretty high threshold for stretching my own limits of disbelief, so when I'm like 'durrr that's stupid', a series is doing a really bad job of not imploding on itself.
Lastly I'm kind of annoyed with people who say 'this is too long so it must suck'. One piece despite being a little slow lately has still managed to stay relatively awesome over it's over ten year run, and even stuff like Conan is good once it revisits it's story. Granted there are cases where a story just needs to end, but I'd rather an author be able to explore all potentials of a plot than to make a quick series just because it's more convenient to collect.
It isn't that I think AoT is wholly bad, I just found it a tad bit more comical after watching the anime. I'm not sure if I'd feel differently reading the manga but after a few episodes I really found myself laughing at scenes I was supposed to think were gruelsome or "epic". I'm also on board with Bomber D. in that I'm sick and tired of seeing ONLY psychological thrillers and gore shows being labeled as "Masterpieces" while everything else is a pile of shit beneath it.
I personally like it when a series can have a good meaningful plot along WITH being fun and enjoyable. I don't really care for a story that JUST plays mind games with me but not giving me and not giving me anything to acctually attach to. If I were to give an example, I'd go with my impressions on Psycho Pass. Sure the story was kind of engaging and I was kind of curious about what was going to happen next, but when one of the characters got killed off, I realized just how little I acctually cared for any of them. I was pretty much watching it just so I could have the satasfaction of knowing what would happen at the end, not because I cared about what would happen to Kogami or any of those other guys. It was why that season I acctually liked Robotics; notes more despite having a poorer ending.
i like some animes better than their manga counterparts