Keep in mind Kabuto's Edo Tensei is much more advanced than Orochimaru's, so don't compare the two. We've seen ninja be dismembered, crushed, and blown to peices this entire arc and they instantly come back. Madara is no different, if not more advanced since Kabuto made him "special".
And Hashirama's cells do not heal you. They make it so you don't need to eat or pee, but they don't heal you lol.
If they did, when Obito lost his arm fighting Danzou's men and got blown to shit fighting Konan he would have regenerated, instead he went back to his hide out to re-grow his arm.
So, sorry but you are wrong.
And if that is the case with Madara, then it's not that he's immortal because of the cells because obviosuly Hashirama is dead. It just means he's immortal from Edo Tensei and the cells may perhaps speed up his regeneration process.
I think for sure is obito is going down first but if obito die betraying madara, madara won't be able to come back to life!, i don't if it's possible that madara use the rinnegan on himself to revived him.
We might have a switch from madara vs naruto to sasuke and taka/oro which i will thanks kishi for it..
Now, we know Hashimara died, but do we know how he died? Clearly not. Now check this statement from Tsunade:
Tsunade literally said that if Tobi has Hashimara's cell, then he is the true meaning of immortal. Now, while you can ask me how Hashimara died, I can tell you that there is a fact that say Hashimara's cell make one immortal. We will certainly know how Hashimara died.
A normal edo tensei will regenerate by gathering dust from the ground. This is not what Madara did. He regenerate from hsi own body, and this is a feature of Hashimara's cell.
Hashirama's cells aren't responsible for Madara healing from his current injuries. It's Edo Tensei alone. Proof? Hashirama's ability heals injuries. Madara is DEAD. He doesn't get injured, he gets damaged. Likewise, his clothing is restored whenever he's hurt. Hashirama's cells don't repair clothing. They repair cells. Lastly, Hashirama's regenerative abilities don't pick up shattered pieces of his body and reconstruct them in place. It creates new cells to replace the destroyed ones.
With Edo Tensei, we've seen already that when someone's damaged, the pieces move back to the broken/severed bodypart and closes, magically, as if guided by telekenisis. Hashirama cells do alot, but they can't do that shit.
Also, how do we know whoever casts Rinne Tensei dies? I don't recall that being a fact, other than Madara and Tobi stating it, since Nagato apparently died due to using up all his chakra.
Oh, and what's with the ridiculous theory about Minato's soul being in Naruto or whatever?
That's really minato, I think. minato set the seal that he'll appear on naruto's consciousness if the 8 tails released. So it isn't just a jutsu or a bag of knowledge. That was really minato and he's real.
That scan shows that minato just used kushina's chakra for her to see the grown up naruto. So it's like the seal summon kushina's soul to naruto consciousness.
And lastly, look here, http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v54/c504/2.html
Kushina clearly said that she can really see the grown up naruto.
And in case your forgot, the hakke seal and the shiki are the one that minato used in naruto for him and kushina could see their son. For raikage, he defined that seals as uzumaki's special sealing jutsu. So for now, it's not impossible to minato to seal his chakra so that his soul/himself could see the grown up naruto. That's not impossible at all in minato's caliber as a sealing expert/master.
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1. Edo Nagato burn and killed by Itachi's amaterasu
As you know about Amaterasu, it consumed the skin, and even part of the bones. Still, new dust came from the ground to give Nagato new bones and skin because the Jutsu was active.
2. Here you have beastkage laying down after hit by FRS.
3. Here, you have Madara hit by Tsunade, and eyes turn black - synonym of temporary death in the case of edo tensei. This happens whenever an edo tensei is hit deadly. Then, their power would come back after some time.
As you can see, when they are hit by deadly Jutsu, it take them sometimes before they can revive again.
Unlike the others, Since edo tensei was stopped, no matter how you hit Madara, there is no way he is going down. Lee cut Madara in two, and I think a conventional edo tensei would have died before coming back by edo regeneration. This is not the case in Madara's case, and it is what Kabuto called special edo tensei. The fact that he does not go down after being cut into two is what I call the literal meaning of immortal. Here, Kabuto showed himself that the reason Madara's edo tensei is unstoppable is Hashimara's clone that was fused with him. If you ask me, I don't know how Kabuto fused a living clone within a body made of dust, and this is why I disagree that Madara is immortal because of edo tensei. If Hashimara's body can be fused, then it can also use any of Hashimara's properties. One of these properties is to create wood, earth, which are the source of dust.
Therefore, you should not discount Hashimara's power in Madara's current state. You can even see that Hashimara's cell affect the clothing.
Last edited by so6pww; January 25, 2013 at 06:43 PM.