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that is part of the problem that i have with this arc it takes to long to read oda has to draw very dark stuff and explain it all so it takes alot longer to get very little useable information all we know is this guys name and that he is a shichibukia nothing else and the same or hogback he is a famous doctor gone bad not much else on that front either
Sorry, OP_overlord but I disagree with you. Oda gave us much information at the end of the Enies Lobby arc that I really haven't any problem with some unsolved misteries. And he can't explain everything until the manga ends. And, imho, I don't believe this arc will give us some big mistery, even if I really don't know how Oda will fit Moria, a sichikubay(sp) in this arc.
As I said before, I didn't liked Brooke in his first appearance, but from next chap, when he got a little bit of background, I took a liking in him. It really seems to fit well with StrawHats.
Last edited by Luckas; March 23, 2007 at 03:25 AM.
i agree i think brooke fits well with the crew and will join them by the end of teh arc but for the moent he is under the comand of a bad guy
and its not that Oda hasnt told us new important, relevant information it is just that he is making more plot holes that need to be filled in later
i.e. all the new villains (Gekko, Dr. Hogback, Ablsome, Ghosts, Zombies, Paintings,... ) in this arc; and the story yet to be finished about Shanks and WB, and BB and Ace, Dragon, Garp, Smoker, Dadan,...
i think i didnt explain it well the first time
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Last edited by Luckas; March 24, 2007 at 02:56 AM.
Your both pretty much right ... there are ALOT of unexplained mysteries and loose ends to tie up. But I don't think Oda will leave us hanging on any of them. Op is going stronger than ever at Over 400+ chapters and doesn't show any signs of slowing. And truth be told If it stays this good. I don't want it too.
I just keep hoping for a zombie that looks like bruce campbell.
now OP_overlord said that brooke is being controled by somebody but im not sure wouldnt that be similar to nami being controled in a sense by arlong and we all know oda doesnt like to repeat himself
yes it is just like it but it makes for a good nakama recruiting theory and nami joined just after they left on their adventure andbrooke joins just as they start their adventure into the new world
and just for general info i havent read the spoiler yet it was all on a hunch/infrence/theory
I bet we'll see the introduction of a couple new strawhats back to back ... it's been a while and they need to introduce the characters and give them time to develop before things get too hot n heavy. Thier almost to the halfway point in the grandline .. and if i'm right expect a military base at the redline. and More Kick=a$$ pirates once they enter the new world.
However back on topic. Everytime I think this arc cant get any better I'm wrong... I just read ch 453 and you can read my opinions about it in the appropriate places. However it' does lead me to wonder .. for the last couple of chapters the zombies have been refering to "The Master" ... as in the masters orders or we obey "The master" I wonder who thier refering tooo... Gekko moria seems too obvious. Hogback maybe because he reanimated them ... Or somebody else entirely. Hmmmmmm...... ?????????? Any interesting ideas would be welcome.
I think this is a great arc! Oda's gone for the weird/surreal and creepy storyline, whilst at the same time making it really comical..although it has been slightly slow in a few places.
recently, this arc is really superb and surprising. you can't know what's gonna be up next. oda just keeps amazing us again and again!
Yeah it's just a small arc, i don't especially like it. Like the Davy Back fight-thing... not one of my favourites.
Ennies Lobby was just too awesome. And the merman thing promises some interesting plot coming. I think this will be over soon, the point of the arc being Brooke joining.
I think Oda really wanted to have a skeleton in the crew, so he had to do an arc related to it. And you can't just present a new character quickly, you've got to introduce him little by little, making him loved by the reader.
If that was his intention, he succeeded. I love Brook! That, and he has to eliminate the Shichibukai little by little.
So it's a necessary arc in my opinion, but not the best. Although it's getting interesting just now... and well One Piece never fails to make me laugh anyway. Which is always great!
Last edited by Yondy; May 21, 2007 at 03:14 PM.
As for the arc itself..I LOVE it. Just amazing visualy, and the storytelling is fairly good. It's not Water 7....but its still a fairly good lead-up, better than Arabaster, but perhaps on par with Jaya....I feel as though the the bulk of this arc (the battles) will hit the right spot in the end and provide us with a new feel for OP and some much needed skill development for the weaker mugiwara.....as they are getting to the point where they cant truely protect themselves without a stronger crewmember to watch their backs....Ussop and chopper in particular.
And of course I think I may get my new favorite Mugiwara out of this arc, namely Brooke. For all those who think it's too soon.....well just imagine the half year of fillers the anime is about to go through. 'Nough said.
Last edited by ANBU4U; May 21, 2007 at 06:35 PM.
however, i do disagree with you on the matters of Brooke and the bounty situation. With Brooke, i've been saying from the beginning that while i love him to death (hehehe) i highly doubt that he will join, but as there is a thread about that already, that's all i'll say here.
as for the bounties after this arc, i doubt that they would change. First of all there is the matter of them just getting their new bounties, so other than Chopper getting a REAL price on his head, i doubt Oda would change these that quickly. but you do bring up a good point that beating another shichibukai would warrent another boot, but i've got some holes to poke in that evidence. First of all, Moria's actions are clearly outside of his contract with the government, so it's not like any of Moria's crew will bring this defeat to the WG's attention. Also, unlike Crocodile's scheme, Thriller Bark is hidden away in the mist, so it would take a good long while before anyone noticed on their own that Moria has been beaten, let alone have any witness to who beat him. If the news of Luffy beating Moria comes to the WG at all it won't be for a good long time and may coincide with Luffy's next big and highly publicized victory, at which time both will be included in the bounty calculations
Yep, I'm a big fan of this arc. It's more light-hearted so far, but I kinda needed it to be after the emotional explosion of W7. Also, I can see Brooke becoming my favorite member after Luffy (right now it's between Sanji and Robin).
If Brooke doesn't end up joining, I'll be disappointed, but I'm pretty sure he will. He already has more depth than Vivi...
Do ya think if luffy beats gekko ... he'll start to be refered to as the shinchibukai slayer???
I mean to defeat not one but two ... shinchibukai .. thats impressive.