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- there are parallels between Tomura Shigaraki and Izuku Midoriya (who are of the same generation)
Just as Midoriya is chosen to be All Might’s successor, Shigaraki is being groomed as the successor for All Might’s archnemesis all for one(AFO)

while shigaraki was the grandchild of the last user of one for all before al might , midoriya will be the son of all for one

and AFO had knowingly taken in shigaraki who was the grandson of all mights master so it woyuld be a neat parallel/contrast if all might unknowingly taken in AFO’s son(or grandson) as his successor plus all for one shares a similarity to darth vader in that He wears a mobile life-support system and a black helmet that hides his deformed face after an encounter with the Protagonist’s(midoriya) mentor. like how darth vaders deformed face was caused by obi wan so it wold be fitting if all for one turned out to be midoriyas father. I mean it was said that midoriyas dad had a fire breathing quirk but AFO has the ability to steal quirks so its possible that AFO had stolen a fire breathing quirk and used that as a cover

heck given that it seems that afo requires oxygen due to the tubes that were in his neck etc using fire breath would kill him since fire feeds off oxygen so he couldnt use quirks that would ignite


Sensei’s little brother is a lot like Midoriya. He was thought quirk-less and had a strong sense of Justice. like how midoriyas quirkless and had a strong sense of justice where he was willing to go run and try to save bakugo from a villian in the first chapter putting his life on the line when he didnt have a quirk and bakugo had bullied him harshly for a while. so it would be fitting for midoriya to be the son of allforone or the descendent of all for ones litle brother though midoriya being allforones son is more fitting. so midoriya would have to defeat his father like the 1st one for all user was allforone’s brother



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“It’s weird that even though Izuku’s dad hasn’t even shown up at all in the manga, there’s still an effort to mention him in passing a few times and even give him a name in the databook #IS HE GONNA BE IMPORTANT LATER ON? WHO KNOWS ” izukus dad was only mentioned in databooks or omakes

this would be izukus dads importance (along with the possibility of the name given being a fake name used by all for one)

(so he could have hid him being a villain from izukus mother

Izuku’s father, Hisashi Midoriya, name is a reference to the pun “It’s been a long time (since I last saw you)”. In the omake covering parents of the kids, only Inko is shown, said to be still married with her husband “overseas”. she is likely being channeled some of his income. the author having said he left villains out of those so they don’t become too sympathetic adds to my idea that Hisashi is a villain because he doesnt appear in the omakes

also izukus father being all for one would make him not having a quirk make more sense for all for one was a first generation so thee chances of him having a quirkless kid more likely than someone of the 3rd generation

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dekus doctor is the same doctor who is working for all for one


so it would fit for dekus father be all for one



  • That same doctor is the grandfather of the winged Noumu, being called Dr Tsubasa and Tsubasa which means one of the people who work for AFO and is one of his closest agent due to the fact that he is afo’s doctor and helps him make the noumus
  • “ there is also a huge medical part to it to combine all the bodies, to work on their compatibility and all that.”” given that he is afo’s doctors “He’s the one to deal with AfO’s health issues, as well as taking part in all stages of Noumu’s production. Of course he should know about quirks quite a lot, shouldn’t he?”” lives near Izuku and Bakugou. Tsubasa’s identity was given in the databook, not omake.
  • Tsubasa’s disappearance occurred around roughly the same time as AFO’s injuries because it’s noted that they don’t know why he didn’t go to the same middle school as Izuku and Bakugou.
And if All For One is Deku’s father this would be another “Got you” moment for All For One towards All Might. As if taking the grandson of All Might’s master and turning him evil wasn’t bad enough, now All For One reveals how All Might teached his son and gave him One For All.

Something rather unimportant to this theory. After the battle All Might against All For One there was this page:




It reminded me of All For One and his little brother on this page:



Somehow i had this weird feeling that Deku looks like All For One and Shigaraki like the little brother, with how Deku and All For One have that emotionless “far away” look in their eyes, and Shigaraki and the brother are visibly angry and clench their teeth.
which would be an ironic flip on how it was with all for one and his brother with the one who looks like all for one being the good guy

also both all for one and deku have shown to both be analytical in that they quickly breakdown quirks functionality and go on long winded explanations remember midoriyas ramblings and all for ones speculations with his conversation with all might in





the writer for bnha blatantly based torino off of yoda from star wars


and as

said



nana shimura represents qui gon jinn

obi wan is represented by all might,


and izuku represents luke.




  • Several of the locations in MHA have their names derived from planets in Star Wars. A lot of them have meaning when you look at the events that occur there:

  • Tatooin/Tatooine Station: A train station Midoriya and Bakugou’s hometown, and one of the first named locations seen in the series. Tatooine was where Luke Skywalker’s Hero’s Journey began.
  • Orudera Junior High School: Named for Alderaan, Princess Leia’s homeworld. Midoriya and Bakugou go to school here before being admitted into UA High. Destruction of something precious (Midoriya’s Notebook) leads to a great change in the narrative.
  • Dagobah Municipal Beach Park: Named For Dagobah, where Luke Skywalker’s Training from Hell with Yoda takes place. Midoriya undergoes similar training so he can inherit One For All.
  • Nabu Junior High: Named for Naboo. Hitoshi Shinso went to this school before attending UA. In Episode I, Naboo is blockaded by the Trade Federation, referencing the obstacles Shinso was unable to overcome, not being admitted to the Hero course due to his Quirk not being suited for direct combat.
  • Hosu, Tokyo: Named for Hoth. In Star Wars, the Battle of Hoth was the result of an ambush by the Imperial army, after discovering the Rebel Alliance base there, and the Rebels lost badly. In much the same way, Stain loses due to an ambush by Iida, Midoriya and Todoroki, and the city is almost overrun by an attack from three Nomou.
  • Kamino Ward, Yokohama: Named for Kamino, where the Clone Troops were grown. Similarly, Kamino is where One For All was growing Nomou to use in attacks carried out by the League of Villains/Villain Alliance.
  • Mustafu: Named for Mustafar, the site of Anakin Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi’s last battle. Bakugou and Midoriya’s hometown, as well as where UA is located; possibly a reference to the bitter rivalry between Bakugou and Midoriya. but it could also be foreshadowing that midoriyas father is all for one who references darth vader and mustafar is where darth vaders castle ( sometimes referred to as vaders personal abode) which served as darth vaders personal residence and Dr Tsubasa’s family seems to live in the area.
so that would mean there would be a darth vader figure who would most likely be dekus is father and the person who fits darth vader with the guy ourighit needing a machine ot help him breathe and having a mask to help him with that . who e wears a mobile life-support system and a black helmet that hides his deformed face after an encounter with the Protagonist’s(midoriya) mentor. with the injuries being the mentors (all might) like how darth vaders deformed face was caused by obi wan /

all for one is an example of

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DarthVaderClone

all for one is darth vader



all for one could very well have stolen a quirk that granted him eternal youth do to the fact that he is older than nana who was shigarakis grandmother and gran torino was already shown to be old like a grandfather and all for ones hands are like that of a young mans



“AFO also watched Izuku destroy himself against Todoroki on national television during the Sports Festival which would be why he gave All Might shit for it and the constant attacks for a poor teacher is better than saying “your shit is maiming my son”.
He has monitors, there’s also the strong implication that he has some sight because he knows that All Might isn’t smiling anymore when he drops the Shimura bomb in the fight.”


“AFO also never told Shigaraki about OFA or All Might’s connection to Izuku. He waited until after Shigaraki and Izuku were gone to give All Might shit about it and he also never specifically instructs Shigaraki to target Izuku despite having suspicions about OFA.”


“the parallels of the Son of the symbol of “evil” midoriya who is the heir to all might versus the grandson of a previous ofa user shigaraki the heir of all for one

“It also ties into the discussion with Todoroki in the Sports Festival. Imagine the irony of Izuku being AFO’s son and telling Todoroki that Todoroki isn’t bound to his father legacy or genetics.

and all for one never said shigaraki will kill izuku


it was all might who made the theory

He didn’t confirm All Might’s theory. If anything, he dismissed it.


AFO is again deflecting from Izuku. Unless it’s about All Might’s bad teaching, he doesn’t talk about Izuku directly, which is suspicious from someone who’s killed the previous OFA wielders. He doesn’t even refer to Izuku as Izuku, it’s Izuku’s full name once then “your student” or “you disciple”.

In the Viz translation, when AFO speaks to the doctor, the doctor says that it’ll be five years before they develop a regeneration Quirk for AFO to heal, NOT that he can’t heal. So why is AFO is planning on giving Shigaraki his villainous legacy when he’s clearly still planning to be around after the fact and why is he so eager for the doctor to hurry up? Having a family would explain his urgency.


Those are AFO’s hands. One hand is close to Shigaraki’s head like a puppeteer, but his other hand is closer to Izuku distance wise.
It’s also more like he’s about to reach out in a caress rather than an outright grip.


also all three people on the cover some how have a aconnection to all for one

shigaraki in that afo is his mentor and bakugou in that he was kidnapped by the villain alliance and bakugou was one of izukus bullys

and on the v10 cover bakugou is facing away with his back while shigaraki and izukus are facing forward.

AFO is really eager to help Shigaraki with Bakugou despite him encouraging Shigaraki’s independence. It’s an opportunity to basically torture one of his son’s bullies. He already turned one into a noumu in spite of that kid being the grandson of his doctor. AFO’s hada big toothy grin about it.




If AFO was placing Shigaraki first, then why is he so happy to help in relation to this?

He’s really happy at being invited to be involved. What’s the bet he would’ve turned Bakugou into a Noumu as well?Can’t persuade him? Harvest his Quirk and use him as a weapon, same as Tsubasa.





The vigilante stuff is really just icing on the cake at this point.If AFO does get involved with Izuku again and manages to somehow persuade him to his views that the government is full of bastards then it’s a spit in the face to All Might, his brother and the government.


It also makes his hatred of All Might more clear. All Might is the system, All Might has basically caused his son to admire the system that screwed over AFO instead of any connection with the father.All Might basically replaced AFO and depending on Shigaraki’s age, it also might be what prompted AFO’s kidnapping of Shimura.

AFO loses his family, he rips away the closet thing All Might has to one.

remember when afo said all might stole something precious to him


Yep, his family do you think?AFO in the Viz translations is hugely different to the Edited MangasLike, he openly despises Bakugou

After he teleports him to him his response is a reluctant “… Apologies… Bakugou” as if he doesn’t even want to say it. His manner of speaking is a lot more casual as well In the same volume when Bakugou’s kidnappedShigaraki outright requests that AFO uses his skillset on Bakugou So it seems like they were outright going to either Quirk harvest him or turn him into a So the thing we Shigaraki asking for helping when Bakugou says no Master, lend me *your* power.“ The your is in italics so it’s All For One’s Quirk he wants.AFO’s response is "Very well… A smart choice Tomura Shigaraki."

then later on after Bakugou’s teleported away

In smaller font "Apologies… … Bakugou.”
Then"And the boy… … because you determined that he is an important pawn.“So it’s nothing flattering
red is used to symbolize all for one











¨I think chapter 193 explains why we saw AFO legitimately angry towards the end of Kamino when he brings Izuku up. We’ve only got two instances of AFO being angry. Chronologically, the first is his brother saying no in 193 and the second is him bringing up All Might giving OFA to Izuku.We also know AFO was possessive enough to keep his brother in a vault and was at least somewhat disturbed by him starving himself and he also did use quirks to create debts with people.If AFO wanted to score any brownie points with Izuku, he lost it when All Might gave Izuku OFA.





and for the idea that izuku may gain access to the quirks of the previous users of one for all maybe izuku wasnt born quirkless may be he was born with the ability to handle multiple quirks or something like that so that he can access the quirks the previous users possess which is why the other ofa users couldnt I mean afo quirk had allowed him to be able to handle many quirks as one of its affects. and/or he can communicate with the first one for all user afoś brother was because of their bloodrelation

  • The first person to pass on One For All had a latent Quirk that allowed him to pass it onto others. At first glance, it might seem like an incredibly convenient plot device, considering how weak and unnoticeable it is. However, it’s not that far-fetched at all, and in fact, makes perfect sense. As shown in-story, Quirks are hereditary, meaning that parents can pass on their Quirks to their children. His brother has the power to steal Quirks, in addition to the power to grant them. Him getting the latter Quirk, but not the former, thus makes complete sense.
  • if deku is the last user of one for all that would mean one for all began and ended with a blood relative of all for one using it to oppose him
So, the first thing that really made me curious was this picture. The side by side of Izuku and All for one is just too similar that it’s uncanny and it made me wonder. Could they be related somehow?



We all know that Hisashi Midoriya…

  • Works Abroad
  • Has a fire breathing quirk
  • His name means “It’s been a while that I’ve seen you” or “a long time ago”
We don’t know much of Hisashi other than those info.

But I could say that they all checkout.

1.) Hisashi works abroad… Meanwhile we see All for one is in America in this panel.


2.) Hisashi can breath fire. Meanwhile All for one has multitudes of quirks that there’s a possibility of one of those quirks is fire breathing (He could have lied to Inko on what quirk he truly has. He is not careless to just say it bluntly to Inko ‘Hey I have a vast amount of quirks) that would be ridiculous.

3.) Hisashi’s name. Horikoshi has a thing of puns in the names of each of his characters and it’s awesome and cute. His name just means ‘a long time ago’ meanwhile All for one is ancient. He was been here since the beginning of quirks appear in the world.

Some speculations that I really like and that made sense in a way.

  • If All for One is Hisashi, it just made sense if Izuku is quirkless. Since All for One is from the first generation. The chances of having a baby to pass on the genetics of having a quirk would be super low.
  • If by chance. Izuku has a quirk. It would also made sense if it’s subtle since we all see that All for one’s brother. One for All, also have a quirk but it’s not that noticeable maybe it’s in their genetics like in the family of some sorts.
  • Deku’s doctor seems to look like the same one as All for one’s doctor

The possibility of him altering Izuku’s test result is super high. I kind of noticed that Inko and Izuku only checked up on this doctor and they seemed didn’t go to another one to have another opinion on the matter of Izuku being quirkless or not

(Aside from that, the voice actor for the doctor is the same as the voice actor for both of them

  • We all know that All for one wanted to kill off all the One for All’s successors. The only troublesome quirk that he couldn’t take back and also be stolen. He is brutal and unforgiving as you can see how he dealt with Nana.

He blew up he entire city just to kill Nana (that’s just overkill! But then again, He locked his sickly brother in a vault so…


All for One has a lot of connections. He will know where Yagi Toshinori is because he knows he is the next successor next to Nana. He will hunt him down and kill him off for sure. that is why Gran Torino is hiding Toshinori as much as he can. He protected him through out the years.


Though that made me wonder…

Since we all know that he wanted to kill all the successors. Especially All Might. And WE all know that All for one knew of Izuku was the next successor. Then why didn’t he kill him off back then in the Kamino Ward?

He is brutal, unforgiving. He even overkilled Nana and will kill All Might. Yet why? These 5 students (especially Izuku) were just hiding behind a broken wall and he couldn’t see that? It is super convenient that there’s a wall part that isn’t even damaged and it is enough to cover the students.


Why is there a hesitation on his part? He can see them. He knows that they are there, yet why didn’t he bother to finish them off just the what he did on the other heroes?

Not unless something is holding him back…

Also in other things.

  • The way Izuku’s One for All activates. Red is the symbol of All for one and Light Green glow is for One for All.

Yet we see them on Izuku. The red lines and the lightning. Could be that he has a remnant of All for one’s quirk in him, a mutated version of it?

  • Then there’s this part where he can communicate to One for All…

Yet we don’t see ‘just’ One for All’s memories. WE also see All for one’s memories…


As you can see here…


One for all isn’t present at all and we know that he is sickly and we all know he is locked up in a vault and he would never joined in side by side with his brother to see this.


It is strange… why would Izuku would ever have those memories…. Not unless… he has a remnant in him of All for one’s quirk…

  • We all know of the star wars reference, you can look up the link from above earlier to further the details.
  • Then there’s this part:

Translations are different on this part as I heard and this lines are super vague compared to the volume book release. Yet in the other translations, it is not stated what All might took from him. It could be ‘what he has build in like his empire yet there’s the part in the translation of he took something or someone from him. It is vague but I want to believe that it is so dear to him that he has to kill All might for it.

REMEMBER, He locked his brother in a fucking vault for heaven’s sake. He is possessive, even what he is doing is wrong, he always thinks what he think is the right thing to do. He locked his brother to either protect him or for him to just not run away, to keep him there.

  • I would like to also point out something and credits to everyone in the All for one servers that I’m in to point it out:
Horikoshi said in his latest interview that ‘Izuku’s father will be ‘revealed’ soon in the manga’ let’s point it out. It is said ‘revealed’ and not ‘introduced’ which just saying that we know the character in the manga already and it’s super exciting!













along with the 2 images of afo and midoriya these are hints

purple fire
all for one definitely has a fire quirk

thefruitloop-chan . tumblr . com/post/181671630586/hi-this-is-kinda-related-to-the-reblog-you-did#notes
‘Izuku, isn’t kidnapped by gate, and dumped at AFO’s feet even though Torino tells us he was quick with his violent murders.’
Which is true. AfO is quick and will murder without hesitation. He could have killed Izuku right there and then.

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“Why even mention All For One?
OFA has always co-existed alongside other quirks.
But Bakugou jumped straight to All For One.” possible foreshadowing
if all for one is midoriyas father todoroki asking izuku if he is all mights secret love child it would be foreshadowing

tealaquachan . tumblr . com/post/182262459831/just-gonna-leave-this-here




dekus hair in the overhaul arc




is the same hair type as afo’s
thefruitloop-chan . tumblr . com/post/184477483211/i-just-want-to-throw-this-out-there-but-i-will#notes
I just want to throw this out there but, I will say that Izuku could have a hidden quirk that is related to quirks like one that has similarities to AFO (it doesnt have to involve stealing quirks ) in some way. Further supporting Dad for one theory.
Okay here I go.
In Chapter 226, we see that Toga’s fascination and admiration on blood was because of her quirk ‘Metamorphosis’ in which she needed to ingest blood to transform into someone.



It’s more of it’s a Second nature so to speak. It’s natural to them.
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Now let’s talk about Izuku for the moment.
We get to see time and time again on how Izuku is fascinated with quirks, analyzed every detail of it and how every quirk he sees is amazing, and not Villainous at all. How he analyse how they use their quirk. It’s more like his second nature to dive through deep.
(Come to think of it I don’t think I’ve read anywhere in the manga on why he was so engaged with Quirk Analysis. Also note that, People in the BNHA universe finds his analysis on quirks and or muttering very very creepy, that they have to get used to Izuku’s muttering even though they find it disturbing. )
Anyways, this fascination on quirks, we also see on All for one. As we can see on Chapter 90.


and we get to see his kleptomania urges
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We already know that AfO is hundreds of years old, that he was there right when the first quirks were coming out right? And we know that humans EVOLVED to not have that toe joint that Izuku lacks right?
Well- That means that All For One Still Had It. Which means that Izuku if he were AfO’s kid would ALSO have it. Even if he had a quirk.
We also- so far- know that no one before Izuku manifested the multiple quirks the way he did/is (And please note that I am behind on manga here, as my reading site is no longer carrying it and my translated collection is not that far ahead).
So who is to say that he DIDNT inherit a quirk like the brother but with a twist from AfO? That is- a previously unknown quirk that had to have something specific to trigger. (like the fact the brother could pass quirks down on choice but didnt HAVE a quirk before OfA to do so with)
That is- what if Izuku has the ABILITY to use multiple quirks, but before OfA DIDNT HAVE the access he would have needed TO those quirks, being unable to take them like AfO?
As for his father’s ‘fire breathing’ if it IS AfO he could literally say- and USE- any quirk he has is his quirk and no one would know any different.
Secondly: provided that Izuku DOESNT have a quirk there are two options that could still lead to AfO being his dad.
A. Being a ‘first quirk’ generation, this was back when quirks were the RARITY and thus it makes sense that his kid would be less likely to HAVE one at all.
B. He did in fact HAVE a quirk
(look me in the eyes and tell me AfO WOULDNT look at someone with a quirk that could pull shit to them and think along the same likes as Endeavor and want a quirk like his ability to STEAL quirks but AT A DISTANCE. Like being able to take a quirk but not limited to touching like his own quirk?)
But AfO TOOK it, I always kind of assumed that since AfO could TAKE and give quirks, he would be able to….taste? them in a sense. He’d know what they were or what they could be, as soon as he laid hands on a person.
Third thing: The fact that, though he struggles with it, the way he interacts with OfA? It’s….remarkable, even compared to past users. He has interacted with the past users- they’ve saved him during the sports festival as well as his ability to manage their other quirks- or the potential to. Who’s to say that’s NOT because its the irony of OfA returning to it’s ‘parent line’? Returned to AfO’’s blood son? Ending up with Izuku?
I am all over the place, and have multiple layered reasons for why I think this could be a possible theory, but to conclude YES I think AfO could TOTALLY be Izuku’s dad.

 
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This would fit into Horikoshi's Star Wars themed story and i could see it happening.

All For One knows about Deku, he knows about Deku's quirklessness and that he still didn't master One For All. 2 of these would be easy to learn by watching the sports festival, but how does he know about Deku's quirklesness?
And if All For One is Deku's father this would be another "Got you" moment for All For One towards All Might. As if taking the grandson of All Might's master and turning him evil wasn't bad enough, now All For One reveals how All Might teached his son and gave him One For All.

Something rather unimportant to this theory. After the battle All Might against All For One there was this page:
It reminded me of All For One and his little brother on this page:
Somehow i had this weird feeling that Deku looks like All For One and Shigaraki like the little brother, with how Deku and All For One have that emotionless "far away" look in their eyes, and Shigaraki and the brother are visibly angry and clench their teeth.
I thought this was a nice illustration of the "good vs evil" conflict, but unsure why Deku resembles All For One, and Shigaraki the little brother.
If this theory comes true i'd have my answer.
 

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This one I can see happening. But the thing about Deku's quirklessness is the fact that the doctor that discovered it is the same one that works for AfO. That's how he must have known about it. That leaves the parallels and some faint physical resemblance.
 

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If the theory about the doctor being AFO's doctor comes out true, which is very likely, I can see this happen.
The thing is, why did AFO's doctor stay at that town? The town is quite small and underprivileged, and its school has no students passing the entrance exam before. However, a doctor, who must be very talented being AFO's private doctor, chose to live in that town. There must be a reason behind it, and maybe as AFO himself used to live there too.

Another point is, by one way or another, AFO could know AM is coming and guard his attack with ease, with he didn't notice or didn't want to kill the 5 students hiding.


Anyway, it would be a damn new level of plot twist if Deku is the one going to villain side, and Bakugou needs to make him go back. The series has been sharing some similarities with Naruto, with some subversion here and there, so it can happen. Besides, the development for Bakugou is quite fast, like how he could already work with Deku after only half of academic year passed, so there must be something else between their relationship happening in the future. Maybe Bakugou becomes a somewhat nice guy, and then his close friend turns out to be a traitor, plus his childhood friend comes to villain side. All of those can break his belief in heroism and ruin all his development. Sounds so seinen-ish though.
 
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What doctor are we talking about
 

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What doctor are we talking about
The one who told Deku he is quirkless 11 years ago:
His design shares similarities with All For One's doctor:
 

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this manga is not naruto where such lame plot twist will occur.There is originality in the narrative that shows the talent of the writer and I don't see a reason for him to change his ways
 

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this manga is not naruto where such lame plot twist will occur.There is originality in the narrative that shows the talent of the writer and I don't see a reason for him to change his ways
I never said all for one was going to change his ways
 

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To me the weird part here would be that this would be a huge coincidence.

In star wars it wasn't a coincidence that luke would turn into a jedi. Well, the events that lead to him started his quest were a coincidence (or the will of the force at the most) however there is also the fact that obi wan set him on course. Obi wan started luke's jedi training so it was not a coincidence that he would eventually meet vader.

In this case the situation is completely different. Izuku ran into allmight by accident and the circumstances which led to midoriya getting OFA were at best random. How could this have been prepared? It's a different situation from tomura whose parent was AFO's enemy and used that to track him and screw with allmight.

So.... the situation we would have here is that the son AFO left behind for reasons miraculously happened to run into allmight and allmight happened to have wanted to give him his quirk. This is not something that would really screw up allmight, there is no reason for allmight to care about who is midoriya's dad. This would be a huge, contextless, coincidence which would serve nothing to the story other than screwing with midoriya.
 

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To me the weird part here would be that this would be a huge coincidence.

In star wars it wasn't a coincidence that luke would turn into a jedi. Well, the events that lead to him started his quest were a coincidence (or the will of the force at the most) however there is also the fact that obi wan set him on course. Obi wan started luke's jedi training so it was not a coincidence that he would eventually meet vader.

In this case the situation is completely different. Izuku ran into allmight by accident and the circumstances which led to midoriya getting OFA were at best random. How could this have been prepared? It's a different situation from tomura whose parent was AFO's enemy and used that to track him and screw with allmight.

So.... the situation we would have here is that the son AFO left behind for reasons miraculously happened to run into allmight and allmight happened to have wanted to give him his quirk. This is not something that would really screw up allmight, there is no reason for allmight to care about who is midoriya's dad. This would be a huge, contextless, coincidence which would serve nothing to the story other than screwing with midoriya.

yes but this concidence which is so random would screw heavily with deku's emotions and intelligence and his way of life. sometimes a random unexpected life event can ruin or make it i see deku being the same it's even possible deku isn't quirkless at all but has a quirk similar to the first OFA user and is benile underground for odd reasons though there is conclusive proof deku is quirkless just like the first OFA user it doesn't mean it has to be

but yea AFO being deku's father would be interesting plot twist and such an interesting reversal

even in this new chapter if AFO tells OFA the truth it would be interesting as hell
 

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Didn't his mother said that Deku's father can breathe fire ? And Deku himself mentioned how he tried to "breathe fire" or make " things float" like his mother
Okay we know AFO has some skills when it comes to manipulation, but this would imply that he has some ability to see the future or else why the hell would he make a child ? How can he know Deku would end up inherting OFA ?

It's true Deku's father not being shown is suspicious while we got to see Bakugou's parents and even other characters, but I really doubt AFO is his father
 

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Didn't his mother said that Deku's father can breathe fire ? And Deku himself mentioned how he tried to "breathe fire" or make " things float" like his mother
Okay we know AFO has some skills when it comes to manipulation, but this would imply that he has some ability to see the future or else why the hell would he make a child ? How can he know Deku would end up inherting OFA ?

It's true Deku's father not being shown is suspicious while we got to see Bakugou's parents and even other characters, but I really doubt AFO is his father
Maybe AFO just wanted to settle down and make a family. He has been playing the shadow ruler of Japan for 5 generations now, at some point it must get boring.

Deku's father, if he isn't AFO, should show himself already. I mean his son was about to die multiple times in the last 6 months. Can't he take some vacation because of that?
 

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Maybe AFO just wanted to settle down and make a family. He has been playing the shadow ruler of Japan for 5 generations now, at some point it must get boring.

Deku's father, if he isn't AFO, should show himself already. I mean his son was about to die multiple times in the last 6 months. Can't he take some vacation because of that?
AFO doesn't strike me as the type who wants to settle down, since his defeat at the hand of AM he must have been plotting to get his revenge, and if I remember right that incident happened before Deku's birth no ?

And also, surely he'd have mentioned this to AM already to break him even more during their fight
 

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AFO doesn't strike me as the type who wants to settle down, since his defeat at the hand of AM he must have been plotting to get his revenge, and if I remember right that incident happened before Deku's birth no ?

And also, surely he'd have mentioned this to AM already to break him even more during their fight
we dont know though, for all we know, inko could've been lying about her husband
 

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IIRC the previous confrontation between AFO and OFA was about 5 years ago. So midoriya was already born by that point.
 

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Chances are Midoriya missing his father was likely just a trope to develop all might as a father figure to him, but you might be on to something, it would be terribly cliched and rather weird that nothing was inherited and last but not least there's hardly any foreshadowing.I also think Midoriya having an important lineage actually undermines the concept of 'making your own destiny' .
 

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Sounds like a fascinating theory. We don't know what are AFO's goals exactly, but I'm sure if Deku joins him, he won't go Full Cowl-Evil, but will try to unify the opposing worldviews of heroes and villains, and work out a system where there's no oppression, favoritism or categorizing (into 'villains' and 'heroes', which eventually gives rise to separation between people).
Inequality and injustice, and the neverending game of polar ideologies - sounds like a common theme/topic in most of literature and manga.
 

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Sounds like a fascinating theory. We don't know what are AFO's goals exactly, but I'm sure if Deku joins him, he won't go Full Cowl-Evil, but will try to unify the opposing worldviews of heroes and villains, and work out a system where there's no oppression, favoritism or categorizing (into 'villains' and 'heroes', which eventually gives rise to separation between people).
Inequality and injustice, and the neverending game of polar ideologies - sounds like a common theme/topic in most of literature and manga.
AFO's goal is simple he wants to return Japan (not the world because we don't know his influence on other countries) to the chaos it was in before society adopted to the heroing system as that was when he was at the height of his power. I can't see Deku ever joining OFA/Shigiraki though I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't enjoy seeing that as it give him an interesting character arc if he did if its written right. I also don't subscribe to the idea that Deku will change the heroing system as there really isn't a need to as there really isn't that much issue with the current system if for what ever reason Deku does change the system I'll be disappointed as why this solution that came about with Deku wasn't thought about before. The theory as a whole about AFO being Deku's dad always seems like a stretch to me.
 

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Why does all for ones force activation quirk in s3e10 of the anime have the same glowing red lines as dekus manifestation of one for all? All might doesn't have those lines? Is it possible all for one is dekus dad and it is because they share the same genes? Maby deku has the force activation quirk himself and that's why he can use 100% with very little mastery of one for all, just like how all for one doesn't need any mastery of a quirk to activate it, and it's because of the force activation quirk forcing deku to use the upper limits of one for all. that would make sense since we see the red glowing veins when he uses 100% and when he initially uses cowling also its a bit strange how someone who literary just inherited a quirk he doesn't understand or know how to use is capable of unleashing the full power of the quirk when he saved uraraka from the giant robot. you might say why doesn't deku have the ability to take quirks if he is the son of all for one. If the quirk that gets passed on isn't the ability to steal quirks, maby it's the first quirk all for one stole that gets passed on. I believe force activation is the first quirk all for one stole because he seemed very adept with it, activating magnes quirk, kurrogiri quirk,fending off gran torino while at the same time helping the league get to the portal and using it as his main weapon of choice against all might. Now you might say we already know dekus dad has a quirk that let's him breath fire... what if all for one stole the ability to breath fire and it was the only quirk dekus mum knew about or seen him use

All for one also has a red lightning effect that is similar to dekus green lightning I would bet that all for one had red hair and eyes and that the color of the lightning depends on the color of the pigments in your hair and eyes and that deku inherited the green hair and eyes from his mother causing him to produce green lighting.

What do you guys think does this hold any weight? just something I came up with after seeing this latest episode and I would like some opinions.
 

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His dad is just a normal dude working overseas.
 
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