Discussion Are There Lack of Strong Bounty Hunters in One Piece World?

[jackthai]

We don't have strong bounty hunters in OP who could chase pirates 200.000.000 or above and I really miss this. It doesn't make sense the high bounties and nobody to go after besides the marines, WG, Cipher Pol etc.

Maybe Oda should introduce some strong ones and let them go after a few supernovas or even the bigshots, some sort of shichibukai of the bounty hunters and they kinda share the bounty and they are so strong that they all get rich just because of the strong pirates with high bounties they've chased before.

What do you guys think about it?

 

[Hannibal Psyche]

Jean Ango was a bounty hunter, but his opponents were Chinjao and Luffy; although he had captured quite a number of Level 6 escapees from Impel-down, so I'd say he fits the bill. You're right there aren't many, but there are probably more bounty hunters out there other than him.

 

[kkck]

We don't have strong bounty hunters in OP who could chase pirates 200.000.000 or above and I really miss this. It doesn't make sense the high bounties and nobody to go after besides the marines, WG, Cipher Pol etc.

Maybe Oda should introduce some strong ones and let them go after a few supernovas or even the bigshots, some sort of shichibukai of the bounty hunters and they kinda share the bounty and they are so strong that they all get rich just because of the strong pirates with high bounties they've chased before.

What do you guys think about it?

I think there is a pretty big strength range implied here. Say, look at sanji. He was given a 177 mil bounty recently. Yet, if he were to go against luffy as he was at the time of the war when he got his 400 mil bounty sanji would basically foderize luffy. He would easily and overwhelmingly foderize good old pre time skip rob lucci as well, whose defeat earned luffy a 300 mil bounty. Heck, sanji would probably win against 10 pre time skip lucci's and 10 pre timeskip luffys with ease as he is now.

So you have jean ango... Who was easily defeated by luffy/chinjao. But that does not mean he can't go up against someone worth 200 mil. For all we know he is strong enough to take on pre time skip luffy. Or he has the means to deal with the current rookies or good old cabibou who was worth 200 mil, a decent bit more than current sanji. He might not but he also might be that strong. Now, odds are there are pretty strong bounty hunters around and we just haven't seen them. Even then, it would be odd for them to be able to aim for strong crews. Imagine there is a guy as strong as say, doflamingo. That would be a massively powerful bounty hunter. And say he is aiming for pirates. As it is this guy would effectively be stronger than any one person in, say, the strawhat crew. However if he actually were to go for anyone's bounty he'd have to take on the entire strawhat crew. Which would be well within what could be considered "death by baffling idiocy" or "suicide". And that is merely the strawhats, imagine someone going after a yonko. The world government captured a single asshole and it got them the biggest war the world has ever seen. In context any bounty hunter capturing a known pirate could easily earn them that much infamy with the wrong crew. Even doflamingo feared the yonko and this is someone whose strength was probably just short of that of an admiral.

You'd need a crew of insanely powerful bounty hunters to be able to capture powerful pirates who are part of important crews. And bounty hunting for the most part seems to be sort of a solo deal. So odds are that even powerful bounty hunters refrain from targeting big names and instead focus on less important people with big bounties. Jean ango could have said he wanted to capture a number of people but odds are he would refrain from doing so if it turned out that say, jinbe, was a part of kaido's crew.

 

[hokageji]

If Luffy and Zoro hadn't met in the circumstances they did, Zoro would be one world class bounty hunter, now that would be worthy of a series of its own.

We've actually seen a large amount of bounty hunters and Oda has actually covered quite a bit of it.

Zoro, Yosaku and Johnny (whom i expect in the next cover page) were bounty hunters in east blue. We had Baroque works in the grandline, all bounty hunters except the leader and a few other pirates. In the new world, Abdullah and Jeet were bounty hunetrs along with Jean Ango. I can make an argument taht Weeble is also a bounty hunter, killing pirates for his own good and collecting bounties at their price.

Once you've entered the grandline, you cannot fend off a ship full of people in a battle. Either you need a stealthy ability like Absolem or you have to be insanely good. I think more than anything, One Piece is the main goal for everyone and if you are going for the treasure, you cannot be labelled as a bounty hunter.

The only thing i would like to see is a former marine as a bounty hunter, taking up a position because couldnt stay in the navy, either for misbehavior or personal feud. Aokiji would make a killer bounty hunter

 

[ced13]

Zoro, Yosaku and Johnny (whom i expect in the next cover page) were bounty hunters in east blue.

Before them there's Rika, Kuina's father, the village Buggy had invaded, that guy in a barrel, Usopp's crew and Kaya in the cover page.

 

[darkprince0521]

I think there is a pretty big strength range implied here. Say, look at sanji. He was given a 177 mil bounty recently. Yet, if he were to go against luffy as he was at the time of the war when he got his 400 mil bounty sanji would basically foderize luffy. He would easily and overwhelmingly foderize good old pre time skip rob lucci as well, whose defeat earned luffy a 300 mil bounty. Heck, sanji would probably win against 10 pre time skip lucci's and 10 pre timeskip luffys with ease as he is now.

But bounty doesn't depend on strength only. I can't remember correctly, but i think Ussop's current bounty is larger than Sanji's. But Sanji is on the same league with Luffy and Zoro.

On topic now, it actually never occurred in my mind that there are basically no bounty hunters in the big scenario. There are so many big shot pirates to introduce that I have never even felt there should be any. But introducing one or two as major player wouldn't be so bad.

 

[jackthai]

That's the point there should be more bounty hunters powerful enough to chase at least the supernovas and below to make the big rewards we've seen so far worth it. Like I said there's no point in having a big bounty just to show to the world how dangerous you are and nobody to go after the reward.

I remember a scene in the past when Zoro still was a bounty hunter, him paying the restaurant bill with a man and I really miss that kind of badass stuff.

I mean we have seen strong ones before but they are no league for muguiaras nor to any other pirate with a bounty bigger than 150.000.000 and I really miss that.

 

[Freid]

I've always thought Fujitora might have been a bounty hunter before he was conscripted. As strong as he is, he clearly has lots of experience on the battlefront and I doubt he used to be a pirate. I think hunting pirates would also fit his style as someone who's driven by justice.

I do expect more powerful bounty hunters to show up at some point in the future though. Maybe Enel is even a bounty hunter these days.

 

[Fox666]

We don't have strong bounty hunters in OP who could chase pirates 200.000.000 or above and I really miss this. It doesn't make sense the high bounties and nobody to go after besides the marines, WG, Cipher Pol etc.

It doesn't necessary need to be a bounty hunter. Someone in the crew could betray them, or a greedy citizen.

 

[I Am Atomic]

Blackbeard = Hunts everything (bounty, df, women, revolutionary army etc...)

 

[kkck]

I ultimately don't see a strong bounty hunter being viable as a threat to yonko crewmembers. And yonko crewmembers would for the most part make up for a significant portion of the powerful pirates at the new world. Even if there is a bounty hunter as strong as an admiral, he can't go an target strong pirates just like that. Strong pirates would be accompanied by strong crews. And in a worst case scenario it would get him, a lone bounty hunter, attention from a yonko. The wrath of a yonko is the sort of thing that gets the likes of doflamingo to piss his pants in fear. More than that, a single strong yonko crewmember falling has already proven to be a world shattering event. Even if there is a strong bounty hunter around he would immediately become a target of some sort to everyone around. Marines would be wary of such a person deciding hunting pirates is not worth his time anymore. Pirates would probably want him as an ally and make him offers he can't refuse. Marines would likely aim to recruit this person as well (It also crossed my min that fujitora might have been a bounty hunter). After all, as a bounty hunter being a marine is not precisely far off from being a marine. You'd be going from informally catching pirates to formally catching them.

 

[Chompp]

Jean Ango was a bounty hunter, but his opponents were Chinjao and Luffy; although he had captured quite a number of Level 6 escapees from Impel-down, so I'd say he fits the bill. You're right there aren't many, but there are probably more bounty hunters out there other than him.

Jean Ango didn't capture any level 6 escapees; he only said he knew where they are.

I'm also disappointed that we haven't seen stronger bounty hunters. Back at Shabondy where we were introduced to some of the bounty hunting groups I hoped we would see some big shots, but no...

I like the idea of Fujitora being a former bounty hunter, but I wonder if we ever learn anything more about him.

 

[Hannibal Psyche]

Jean Ango didn't capture any level 6 escapees; he only said he knew where they are.

I'm also disappointed that we haven't seen stronger bounty hunters. Back at Shabondy where we were introduced to some of the bounty hunting groups I hoped we would see some big shots, but no...

I like the idea of Fujitora being a former bounty hunter, but I wonder if we ever learn anything more about him.

Pretty sure this says he caught some of them and he plans to catch the others too, more so he said he'd been making a lot of money in the past 2 years to support the statement.

Spoiler

I do think Jean Ango is strong as are the majority who participated in the Block fights, but Luffy and co. are just in a completely different league. One of the Happou Navy fighters attacked an individual's body with a bladed weapon that was claded in haki, yet it broke against the opponent's body who is possibly not even making use of haki or at least it's questionable which is a feat either way.

Spoiler

Personally, whether we get more Bounty hunters or not, their roles wouldn't be that much different to the marines, but on another note, what if Mihawk is actually a Bounty Hunter? We don't even know if he's actually a Pirate?

 

[jackthai]

Pretty sure this says he caught some of them and he plans to catch the others too, more so he said he'd been making a lot of money in the past 2 years to support the statement.

Spoiler

I do think Jean Ango is strong as are the majority who participated in the Block fights, but Luffy and co. are just in a completely different league. One of the Happou Navy fighters attacked an individual's body with a bladed weapon that was claded in haki, yet it broke against the opponent's body who is possibly not even making use of haki or at least it's questionable which is a feat either way.

Spoiler

Personally, whether we get more Bounty hunters or not, their roles wouldn't be that much different to the marines, but on another note, what if Mihawk is actually a Bounty Hunter? We don't even know if he's actually a Pirate?

We all know that Shichibukais used to be pirates so is Milhawk, maybe he was from Shiki's crew or any other Roger's rival and that's why he fought Shanks so many times in the past.

I hope Oda shows us Milhawk crewmates sometime in the future, I bet he became a pirate to show how strong his swordmanship is.

 

[Chompp]

Pretty sure this says he caught some of them and he plans to catch the others too, more so he said he'd been making a lot of money in the past 2 years to support the statement.

Spoiler

If you read all Jean Ango's dialogue it becomes pretty clear that the money he has made is from catching some of the escapees yeah, but he's talking about escapees that were from levels 1 to 4 (technically you could argue that he has captured prisoners from level 5, but I don't think he's strong enough for that either. Besides I don't think that any others than Crocodile and Jimbei got away from level 5), and not the ones that escaped from level 6, that's my point. Level 6 prisoners are still free in the world. I never said Ango was weak, I just don't see him being strong enough to impact the story any more than he have. I think at most we could see a side story of him going after Buggy like he said, but even that's a stretch.

One of the Happou Navy fighters attacked an individual's body with a bladed weapon that was claded in haki, yet it broke against the opponent's body who is possibly not even making use of haki or at least it's questionable which is a feat either way.

Spoiler

Not that this belongs to this topic, but yeah that happened. And I have thought that little strange, shouldn't you need haki to overpower haki?

 

[Hannibal Psyche]

If you read all Jean Ango's dialogue it becomes pretty clear that the money he has made is from catching some of the escapees yeah, but he's talking about escapees that were from levels 1 to 4 (technically you could argue that he has captured prisoners from level 5, but I don't think he's strong enough for that either. Besides I don't think that any others than Crocodile and Jimbei got away from level 5), and not the ones that escaped from level 6, that's my point. Level 6 prisoners are still free in the world. I never said Ango was weak, I just don't see him being strong enough to impact the story any more than he have. I think at most we could see a side story of him going after Buggy like he said, but even that's a stretch.



Not that this belongs to this topic, but yeah that happened. And I have thought that little strange, shouldn't you need haki to overpower haki?

Ah, you seem to be right.

In regards to haki though, haki isn't needed to overpower haki. Luffy was able to break through the Gorgon sister's armament haki through brute strength. Haki makes things harder, but brute strength can still overcome it if it's not strong enough; it's purpose is to support and strengthen, it won't be the entire basis of one's core strength per se.

 

[Fox666]

Can a Haki punch smash a castle, split a mountain, destroy the planet? If not, then there are things which Haki is not enough to defeat. =P

 

[Chompp]

In regards to haki though, haki isn't needed to overpower haki. Luffy was able to break through the Gorgon sister's armament haki through brute strength. Haki makes things harder, but brute strength can still overcome it if it's not strong enough; it's purpose is to support and strengthen, it won't be the entire basis of one's core strength per se.

Oh yeah that! I totally forgot that. But still I think it was little strange because I don't think that even Luffy could fend of an axe just like that... But yeah, maybe he has a strange super strong body. I think the scene would have made more sense if it had been a club or something instead of an axe.

 

[hokageji]

I dont think Elizo's punch has haki involved either, its just a brute punch with insane strong power. It does know out everyone you can think of....

 

[Holt]

Well the issue with bounty hunters is that they're mostly solo or 2 man. Those worth much would likely have a competent crew members and it's been said that in the new world, you survive either by staying under the umbrella of a yonko or going against them. Even those not affiliated with yonko could be affiliated with more powerful crews like shichibukia. It's one thing for one to be stronger than every individual in a crew but another for him to overpower the entire crew and make away with his prize. Even the likes of DD can't expect to take on the SH crew alone and be successful. In the end, they're probably a few bounty hunters that capture pirates with bounty in hundreds of millions but they'd probably steer clear of more powerful crews.