Chapter Boku no Hero Academia Chapter 297 Discussion

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I like the concept of what you are proposing but it would mean that AFO would have had a hand in triggering the interaction between the meta liberation army and the LOV. But too much crazy stuff happened that AFO would have to had to been on some Aizen level asspull planning to foresee. Unless he hoped that fighting Machia would be enough to push Shiggy, but then full powered decay kills Machia...new body trumps Machia? Ultimately feels convulated imo.
It's not so much afo planned for everything and more that like endeavour his successor was an extension of himself. AFO didn't give a fuck about what shigaraki felt because he expected shigaraki will do what he wanted.
 

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One theory I read on reddit was that Shigaraki's original quirk was "Air Walk" as this quirk could be more related to his grandmother Nana's "Float" than the "Decay" quirk and this was given to him by AFO.
I don't like that idea of AFO giving him the quirk. But the unknown man he encountered that day was likely AFO, maybe he forced the activation somehow. Decay seems too strong to give away, the original version of the quirk would have allowed AFO to kill All Might so it doesn't make sense to give it away.
 

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I don't like that idea of AFO giving him the quirk. But the unknown man he encountered that day was likely AFO, maybe he forced the activation somehow. Decay seems too strong to give away, the original version of the quirk would have allowed AFO to kill All Might so it doesn't make sense to give it away.
AFO is petty as hell and loves mind games. all might could tell that ago wasn't lying because that was something he would do. From the start it's obvious that shigaraki is nothing more than afo favorite pawn. Nothing more and nothing less.
 

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I don't like that idea of AFO giving him the quirk. But the unknown man he encountered that day was likely AFO, maybe he forced the activation somehow. Decay seems too strong to give away, the original version of the quirk would have allowed AFO to kill All Might so it doesn't make sense to give it away.
I think his egomania got the better of himself. He may have been too gleeful about finally discovering Nana’s family that he gave away a powerful Quirk that would’ve come in handy killing All Might. I like this idea, because it makes him a little more human who’s not above making mistakes.
 

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Overhaul might try get his revenge on Tomura next chapter before AFO steals his quirk and Tomura kills him.
Nah he's powerless , I'd kinda hate that , he knows he can't measure up to either , he's smart , I'd rather he ally up with afo and get restored , kinda want mirio to have a fair round 2 against him
 

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I feel like the AFO/Shigaraki Big bad argument is kinda like a Chicken/Egg debate.

AFO possibly engineering Tenko's original fall doesn't take away from the fact that narratively Tomura has always taken priority over AFO as a character regardless of AFO being the root of who Tomura is. The Overhaul arc, the MVA arc, the league of villains post-Kamino in general. Compress and Twice specifically risking their lives for Tomura. All of that was for building Tomura up and establishing who he is. It's his parallels with Deku that are emphasized continuously and is the antagonist Deku has the most personal connection with even without the whole saving attribute.

In a traditional sense, AFO has all the makings of the big bad of this story but despite being just a pawn/"the next me" Tomura's received a crapton of focus- more than needed if he was ultimately just going to remain a pawn until endgame. I really don't see that all being thrown away now when Hori has already sunk more time into him than any other antagonist in the series. It's in character for AFO to remain in control but I really don't see him staying subservient to AFO when Shigaraki has been treated as the protagonist of the villains and continues to be used as such.
 

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Nah he's powerless , I'd kinda hate that , he knows he can't measure up to either , he's smart , I'd rather he ally up with afo and get restored , kinda want mirio to have a fair round 2 against him
I mean we still need to see how Overhaul’s quirk was remodeled and I won’t mind seeing Overhaul and AFO team up until they escape.
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

It sounds like we’re going to see more of AFO’s backstory and an AFO face reveal next chapter.
 

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Yes but what was the point of MVA? If he was gonna take over his body? Why did he need him to subjugate Machia, win the doctor's trust etc. When he met doctor the surgery could have been performed and AFO could have just taken over then and there...no need to waste all that time with MVA. No need to say he's gonna take quirks specifically for Tomura's sake if he was gonna be in the driver's sit. It really doesn't add up as is if you look at it from your standpoint.
Simple, he wanted to make shigaraki into a worthy vessel all the while giving a gigantic middle finger to nana and allmight. Being a tad more specific, I would guess the practical aspect of this was to make shigaraki strong enough to have his body modified, so that he could hold AFO and then eventually be able to handle having 2 consciousnesses. To me with this the series finally makes sense tbh, because all of the things that simply don't really work with shigaraki as a main antagonist (that I have been pointing out for some time now)...

As for the point of MVA.... a shifting context? It's not shigaraki's villain academia but rather AFO's... Not in the sense that AFO attends school, but rather he owns it.
 
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It's not so much afo planned for everything and more that like endeavour his successor was an extension of himself. AFO didn't give a fuck about what shigaraki felt because he expected shigaraki will do what he wanted.
No I meant the convoluted planning that would have went into awakening Shiggy's decay quirk if he (AFO) had a hand to play in MVA.
 

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But you can't really plan out the MVA arc if you're AFO. There are way too many variables that just so happened to work out. Twice overcoming his trauma, the MLA striking when they did, Tomura even caring enough to even go to Delka city in the first place, Tomura just so happening to remember his quirk's true ability when he recovered his memories.

Saying all of that was for the purpose of making Tomura stronger seems like BS. When half of the turnout relied on some lucky breaks. You can still make Tomura into a vessel but fighting Giga was more than enough to do that without relying on random chance.
 

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One thing about this chapter is the last page. Shigaraki uses Ore for I and Afo Boku. The last page uses Boku. This page pretty much seals Afo as final villain. Because at this point only big bad can say such clear reference to protagonist lines
 

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But you can't really plan out the MVA arc if you're AFO. There are way too many variables that just so happened to work out. Twice overcoming his trauma, the MLA striking when they did, Tomura even caring enough to even go to Delka city in the first place, Tomura just so happening to remember his quirk's true ability when he recovered his memories.

Saying all of that was for the purpose of making Tomura stronger seems like BS. When half of the turnout relied on some lucky breaks. You can still make Tomura into a vessel but fighting Giga was more than enough to do that without relying on random chance.
Yeah exactly. Too many variables to account for, this man is no Aizen lol
 

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I get feeling Shiragaki and All for one is going after Deku at some point I really won t be suprise if this happen. Because he has one for all and they both know it.

Out of everyone in Japan no one is in more danger than Deku.
 

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Looking at a glimpse of the new female villain’s powers, it looks like a Quirk that requires a lot of technical knowledge to use it.

Please, please, please let her be Momo’s endgame. Or together with Ochako. At this point, she’s infinitely more interesting than Toga is.
 

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My next prediction

All for one and Shiragaki will attack the school and society itself

They probably try to kill every single pro heroes there is and inflict as much as damage to society as they can

Deku will be terror again as he try to crawl away to the battlefield again


Pro heroes,Everyonelse and All might will panick and Citizens are in terror and in chaos.

All for one and Shiragaki aren t gonna pull in any punches

I have no idea what Overhaul,muscular and moonfish will do next.
 

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One thing about this chapter is the last page. Shigaraki uses Ore for I and Afo Boku.

AFO is the one speaking in the last page from his actual body. It's not Shigaraki!AFO anyway so there's no need for that distinction.
 

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I get feeling Shiragaki and All for one is going after Deku at some point I really won t be suprise if this happen. Because he has one for all and they both know it.

Out of everyone in Japan no one is in more danger than Deku.
I’ll give you one better: if AFO succeeds in overtaking Shigaraki fully, he’ll take the opportunity to present the absolute worst scenario. OFA REVEAL.

While he recovers his body, he’ll have villains all over Japan do the dirty work for him by holding a bounty on his head. Alive, of course.
 

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Looking at a glimpse of the new female villain’s powers, it looks like a Quirk that requires a lot of technical knowledge to use it.

Please, please, please let her be Momo’s endgame. Or together with Ochako. At this point, she’s infinitely more interesting than Toga is.
Is there a translation to what she is saying? The twitter post in the pics thread aren't appearing for me for some reason.
 

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Looking at a glimpse of the new female villain’s powers, it looks like a Quirk that requires a lot of technical knowledge to use it.

Please, please, please let her be Momo’s endgame. Or together with Ochako. At this point, she’s infinitely more interesting than Toga is.
So the mystery waifu was the one who used that emp attack to fry the security system.
 
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