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Team Crime Sorcière vs Spriggan 3

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Well likely Jellal could not be fast enough in time to create a barrier and had to use his body to shield her, Acno could be just casual with his attack. Jacob reacts to attacks by pretty much everyone that didn't involve surprise attacks or incapacity.
 

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And where did they tag Acno? I don't see Cobra, Sting, or Rogue landing a single hit on Acno in the manga. Or fillers for that matter.

Jellal was being dumb when he saved Kagura by trying to shield her with his body. All he had to do to block Neinhart's attack was put up a barrier. Like here.

Jacob got tagged by everyone he fought. Loke, Makarov, Natsu, Lucy, and Mirajane with no takeover all landed shots on him. Pretty much anyone can tag him if they can see him.

Jacob and Neinhart are fodder here. Jellal flies around in meteor and/or puts up a barrier, and just casts Grand Chariot. Neinhart already got stomped by Grand Chariot, and Jacob gets oneshotted by anything as strong as Satan Soul's punches. Bloodman is the only one who can put up a fight, and since we're restricting his particles, they don't even have to worry about him becoming intangible.

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They "tagged" his body in the filler. It's just he blocked their attacks. Wendy straight up hit him tho lol. Again not seeing how tagging Jobbernologia is impressive or even actually consistent to Jellal's previous showings. If Acno wanted Jellal to not touch him, Jellal would not be capable of touching him. So not seeing the amazing speed feat from this encounter.

Lucy, Loke and Makarov only hit him while he was distracted. Jacob while not distracted was capable of reacting to both Natsu and Lucy at the same time in that fight and Natsu failed to blitz and oneshot. Not seeing how Jellal who has far weaker showings than even Base Natsu is blitzing and oneshoting Jacob. Jellal couldn't even do that to Gears or Neinheart lol.

Jellal didn't have time to or his barrier isn't strong enough to block the attack. It only blocked an attack that was capable of severely hurting or killing an almost dead Wendy and Erza. He also failed to put up his barrier or dodge attacks against Gears who stats scale to the other fodder seeds lol.

They aren't fodder seeing as one oneshotted Jellal already and the other was stronger than Base Natsu. Grand Chariot which is the equivalent to a Base Natsu punch? BSS and Elfman were capable of hurting Madmole who no sold a FDK punch so yes, Jacob is certainly capable of taking GC to the face. Erza toying around? Really? Erza has been tagged by the likes of people she could fodderize while serious. Kagura, and Kiria are perfect examples of this. Serious Erza blitzed Laxus who fodderize Kiria with absolutely no struggle yet jobbing Erza failed to blitz Kiria once in their fight.

Jellal ain't blitzing. The only person he can oneshot here is Neinheart, but Neinheart can oneshot as well lol. Jacob and Bloodman would straight up no diff Jellal together. Stealth + Tartarus Curse would make quick work of Jellal. Heck, I'm not seeing as why Bloodman can't solo himself when he just Macro's them to kill themselves. A Bloodman who is not restricted by plot is broken.
 

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Not only that, Jellal isn't powerful enough to even scratch him in the first place.
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And where did they tag Acno? I don't see Cobra, Sting, or Rogue landing a single hit on Acno in the manga. Or fillers for that matter.

Jellal was being dumb when he saved Kagura by trying to shield her with his body. All he had to do to block Neinhart's attack was put up a barrier. Like here.

Jacob got tagged by everyone he fought. Loke, Makarov, Natsu, Lucy, and Mirajane with no takeover all landed shots on him. Pretty much anyone can tag him if they can see him.

Jacob and Neinhart are fodder here. Jellal flies around in meteor and/or puts up a barrier, and just casts Grand Chariot. Neinhart already got stomped by Grand Chariot, and Jacob gets oneshotted by anything as strong as Satan Soul's punches. Bloodman is the only one who can put up a fight, and since we're restricting his particles, they don't even have to worry about him becoming intangible.

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Jellal could of also used Metor as well
Jellal and Ezra part I don’t know if we should count a joke fight or not
 

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In what world are we pretending Jellal isn't fast lol? The downplay is ridiculous. He always has been and always will be one of the fastest characters in the manga. What he did to Acnologia was clearly Mashima portraying his power and speed, especially given that he did it in a 1v1. He did as well as Eileen did, if not better.

Even just dodging Erza's sword strikes is already a better speed feat than anything anyone here has, and he wasn't even using Meteor.
Neinhart and Bloodman have never dodged an attack in their lives lol. Jacob was getting smacked around by Base Mira and Loke, none of them are even close to a level where they could dodge Erza's sword.
 

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In what world are we pretending Jellal isn't fast lol? The downplay is ridiculous. He always has been and always will be one of the fastest characters in the manga. What he did to Acnologia was clearly Mashima portraying his power and speed, especially given that he did it in a 1v1. He did as well as Eileen did, if not better.

Even just dodging Erza's sword strikes is already a better speed feat than anything anyone here has, and he wasn't even using Meteor.
Neinhart and Bloodman have never dodged an attack in their lives lol. Jacob was getting smacked around by Base Mira and Loke, none of them are even close to a level where they could dodge Erza's sword.
he was never portrayed as the fastest character in the manga
What he did to Acnologia was clearly Mashima portraying his power and speed
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while erza performance against acno was because mishma wanted to potray erza can move that much mass :teehee
 

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he was never portrayed as the fastest character in the manga
What he did to Acnologia was clearly Mashima portraying his power and speed
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while erza performance against acno was because mishma wanted to potray erza can move that much mass :teehee
Never said he was portrayed as the fastest, I said he was portrayed as one of the fastest. And he always has been.

No, it was power as well. It's simply no better than Jellal as I said. Besides, I was talking about Jellal's human 1v1, not his pushing the dragon
 

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Portrayed as one of the fastest, fails to blitz Neinheart and Gears and has zero actual relevant blitz feats post x784 lol. Jellal's speed feats are as lackluster as his actual feats. Anyone thinking he can tag Acno under any circumstances in which Acno did not allow Jellal to tag him is hilarious. Dude would have gotten the Serena treatment if he wasn't an FT ally lol.

Also dodging Erza who is clearly jobbing (the fight was entire gag lol) is not a good feat either. Fodder like Kiria was able to tag Erza when she was not fighting at her best. Jacob was keeping up with Base Natsu easily in speed and was fighting Lucy at the same time. Loke never tagged him without a distraction. Bloodman was able to keep up with Gajeel fine and Gajeel can keep up with Natsu. Jellal ain't blitzing Natsu when he failed to blitz Gears or Neinheart.
 

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Never said he was portrayed as the fastest, I said he was portrayed as one of the fastest. And he always has been.

No, it was power as well. It's simply no better than Jellal as I said. Besides, I was talking about Jellal's human 1v1, not his pushing the dragon
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Portrayed as one of the fastest, fails to blitz Neinheart and Gears and has zero actual relevant blitz feats post x784 lol. Jellal's speed feats are as lackluster as his actual feats. Anyone thinking he can tag Acno under any circumstances in which Acno did not allow Jellal to tag him is hilarious. Dude would have gotten the Serena treatment if he wasn't an FT ally lol.

Also dodging Erza who is clearly jobbing (the fight was entire gag lol) is not a good feat either. Fodder like Kiria was able to tag Erza when she was not fighting at her best. Jacob was keeping up with Base Natsu easily in speed and was fighting Lucy at the same time. Loke never tagged him without a distraction. Bloodman was able to keep up with Gajeel fine and Gajeel can keep up with Natsu. Jellal ain't blitzing Natsu when he failed to blitz Gears or Neinheart.
Gear had that time magic that made it where Jellal couldn’t move.
 

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They "tagged" his body in the filler. It's just he blocked their attacks. Wendy straight up hit him tho lol. Again not seeing how tagging Jobbernologia is impressive or even actually consistent to Jellal's previous showings. If Acno wanted Jellal to not touch him, Jellal would not be capable of touching him. So not seeing the amazing speed feat from this encounter.

Lucy, Loke and Makarov only hit him while he was distracted. Jacob while not distracted was capable of reacting to both Natsu and Lucy at the same time in that fight and Natsu failed to blitz and oneshot. Not seeing how Jellal who has far weaker showings than even Base Natsu is blitzing and oneshoting Jacob. Jellal couldn't even do that to Gears or Neinheart lol.

Jellal didn't have time to or his barrier isn't strong enough to block the attack. It only blocked an attack that was capable of severely hurting or killing an almost dead Wendy and Erza. He also failed to put up his barrier or dodge attacks against Gears who stats scale to the other fodder seeds lol.

They aren't fodder seeing as one oneshotted Jellal already and the other was stronger than Base Natsu. Grand Chariot which is the equivalent to a Base Natsu punch? BSS and Elfman were capable of hurting Madmole who no sold a FDK punch so yes, Jacob is certainly capable of taking GC to the face. Erza toying around? Really? Erza has been tagged by the likes of people she could fodderize while serious. Kagura, and Kiria are perfect examples of this. Serious Erza blitzed Laxus who fodderize Kiria with absolutely no struggle yet jobbing Erza failed to blitz Kiria once in their fight.

Jellal ain't blitzing. The only person he can oneshot here is Neinheart, but Neinheart can oneshot as well lol. Jacob and Bloodman would straight up no diff Jellal together. Stealth + Tartarus Curse would make quick work of Jellal. Heck, I'm not seeing as why Bloodman can't solo himself when he just Macro's them to kill themselves. A Bloodman who is not restricted by plot is broken.
Acno dodged Sting's holy ray. Cobra and Gajeel's roar was blocked by Acno's hand. I don't think Rogue even came close. Acnologia reacted to all of their attacks. Jellal landed clean shots on him. I'm sure that Acno could dodge Jellal if he wanted to, but Jellal still outperformed the 3 of them easily.

Lucy maybe. But Jacob wasn't distracted against Loke or Makarov. Loke just blinded him with a flash of light and that's no excuse, considering there are characters in the series that can tank explosions without flinching. Makarov literally walked up to him and gave a speech before throwing a telegraphed punch. Jacob isn't hard to hit when he's not invisible. This is all it takes to hit Jacob.

Jellal only got hit because he put himself in the path of Neinhart's attack, and just got the wind knocked out of him and drowned. After Kagura's CPR, he got back up and stomped Neinhart. He was still in good enough condition to fight for the rest of the day. If Jellal simply uses his barriers or use meteor to run away, Neinhart's not touching Jellal.

Acnologia can blow a hole through God Serena with no effort. At the very least, it's better than Wendy's barriers, which are capapble of stopping Dimaria's all out attacks and Irene's explosions. Jellal's barrier is blocking any of the Spriggan's attacks here.

Gears and Neinhart both went down to a Grand Chariot. Mirajane and Elfman fought Madmole and Skullion for a long time. Jacob got oneshotted by the first punch Mirajane threw.
 
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