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Crime Sorcière



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Crime Sorcière Team
Jellal Fernandes
Ultear Milkovich
Meredy
Cobra
Midnight
Racer
Hoteye
Sorano

Conditions
Everyone has the power-level they did during Alvarez
Jellal can use all of the magic/spells that he has shown in the series
Everyone is bloodlusted

Restrictions
Magic Bane Particles
Spriggan Historia (Regular Historia is allowed)
Meredy cannot use her Sensory Link to kill the Spriggans along with herself (She can use it in any other way she sees fit)
Transport
Bloodman cannot take his opponent to death with him (how he defeated Gajeel)
Ultear cannot turn back time

Intent
To Kill

Location
Where Crime Sorcière fought August

Starting Distance
40 Feet​
 

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Neinhart can make some Historia to deal with the other Crime sorce members for awhile, while Jacob and bloodman deal with Jellal after they defeat him help Neinhart
 

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Considering the rules, I don't see why Jellal just doesn't blitz and kill both Jacob and Neinhart.

Bloodman can be dealt by the rest and jellal soon after he joins.
 

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Basically Jellal and possibly Cobra is he only factor here that can Deal with the Spriggans, otherwise, the others are inconsequential
 

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Jellal drops Sema and kills both Jacob and Neinhart. The rest take care of Bloodman
 

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The Ultear pic tho:kreygasm :kreygasm.

Anyway, Cobra can probably hold off Jacob, if not outright beat him. Cobra is comparable to x792 base Gajeel, if we consider the Gajeel spinoff.
The rest of them can hold off Neinhart and his Historia, until Jellol deals with Bradman.

Crime Sorceire wins, mid diff.
 

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Jellal stomps Jacob and Neinhart. Grand Chariot is enough.

Everyone gangs up on Bloodman afterwards, who admittedly is going to give them some trouble until they figure out how to deal with his particles.
 

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Jellal stomps Jacob and Neinhart. Grand Chariot is enough.

Everyone gangs up on Bloodman afterwards, who admittedly is going to give them some trouble until they figure out how to deal with his particles.
Particles are restricted lol.

Bradman is base Gajeel tier in stats, I don't see CS much issues against him either, especially with magic barrier particles restricted.
Gajeel faced issues to begin with because he was a pure physical fighter
 

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Meredy buffing everyone deals with MBP particles, it's how Juvia beat Keyes in their rematch, and how Meredy could damage Juvia in their original fight, intangibility doesn't work against her
 

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Particles are restricted lol.

Bradman is base Gajeel tier in stats, I don't see CS much issues against him either, especially with magic barrier particles restricted.
Gajeel faced issues to begin with because he was a pure physical fighter
Oh well if Bloodman isn't intangible, then I can't see Jellal struggling too much.
 

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Bloodman solos. None of them can hurt or touch him.

Jellal hasn't had single good blitz feat so not seeing him blitz anyone here. He def doesn't have the ability to just oneshot anyone after needing an entire chapter to charge GC to drop Neinheart. The others are fodder who get stomped by Neinheart alone or dies by the backlash of Bloodman's attacks.

Jellal gets beat up by Bloodman or Jacob puts him into submission hold and stabs him in the neck.

The trio stomp. CS is fodder and Jellal.
 

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Jellal tagged Acnologia. So he's fast enough to tag anyone here.

Charging Grand Chariot isn't a real thing, but even if it were, it doesn't actually change anything. It's not like Jellal has to stay still to cast Grand Chariot. None of the Spriggans can actually match his speed or break through his barriers. No reason why Jellal can't just make a thought projection to keep the other Spriggans occupied while he casts either.
 

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Honestly, Jellal should be able to solo.
 

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Cobra, Sting and Rogue "tagged" Acno. Again, he lacks any good blitz feats.
 

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Cobra, Sting and Rogue "tagged" Acno. Again, he lacks any good blitz feats.
If most types of Magic don't even work on you there's really no point in dodging
 
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Cobra, Sting and Rogue "tagged" Acno. Again, he lacks any good blitz feats.
Where?

Jellal got up behind Acno, hit him with 9 lightning stars, and then Grand Chariot. He can easily do the same to anyone here.
 

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Jellal got up behind Acno, hit him with 9 lightning stars, and then Grand Chariot. He can easily do the same to anyone here.
In the RoT. Wendy, Cobra, Sting, and Rogue, all who were half dead, tagged Acno. Erza tagged Acno, BSS dodged Acno, and a whole bunch of fodder like Racer was able to play hide and seek with Acno. He was tagged by Christina as well. Jellal's not blitzing anyone since Jellal was barely able to protect Kagura from Neinheart's attack, Jacob was able to keep up with Natsu's speed and Bloodman against Gajeel's speed who can keep up with Natsu. Jellal also was tagged Gears, a god seed who stats are comparable to fodder.

Like I said, he lacks actual speed feats. Everyone in their mama could tag Jobbernologia in the final chapters. It's not a feat of speed since Acnologia was letting everyone hit him and two, it's a nowhere near consistent feat to Jellal's actual level. Jellal's consistent speed feats are not good at all, since he was already tagged by characters w/minimal stats like Neinheart and Gears. Jellal ain't blitzing anyone here.
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If most types of Magic don't even work on you there's really no point in dodging
Not only that, Jellal isn't powerful enough to even scratch him in the first place.
 

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In the RoT. Wendy, Cobra, Sting, and Rogue, all who were half dead, tagged Acno. Erza tagged Acno, BSS dodged Acno, and a whole bunch of fodder like Racer was able to play hide and seek with Acno. He was tagged by Christina as well. Jellal's not blitzing anyone since Jellal was barely able to protect Kagura from Neinheart's attack, Jacob was able to keep up with Natsu's speed and Bloodman against Gajeel's speed who can keep up with Natsu. Jellal also was tagged Gears, a god seed who stats are comparable to fodder.

Like I said, he lacks actual speed feats. Everyone in their mama could tag Jobbernologia in the final chapters. It's not a feat of speed since Acnologia was letting everyone hit him and two, it's a nowhere near consistent feat to Jellal's actual level. Jellal's consistent speed feats are not good at all, since he was already tagged by characters w/minimal stats like Neinheart and Gears. Jellal ain't blitzing anyone here.
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Not only that, Jellal isn't powerful enough to even scratch him in the first place.
And where did they tag Acno? I don't see Cobra, Sting, or Rogue landing a single hit on Acno in the manga. Or fillers for that matter.

Jellal was being dumb when he saved Kagura by trying to shield her with his body. All he had to do to block Neinhart's attack was put up a barrier. Like here.

Jacob got tagged by everyone he fought. Loke, Makarov, Natsu, Lucy, and Mirajane with no takeover all landed shots on him. Pretty much anyone can tag him if they can see him.

Jacob and Neinhart are fodder here. Jellal flies around in meteor and/or puts up a barrier, and just casts Grand Chariot. Neinhart already got stomped by Grand Chariot, and Jacob gets oneshotted by anything as strong as Satan Soul's punches. Bloodman is the only one who can put up a fight, and since we're restricting his particles, they don't even have to worry about him becoming intangible.

Also.
 

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Well likely Jellal could not be fast enough in time to create a barrier and had to use his body to shield her, Acno could be just casual with his attack. Jacob reacts to attacks by pretty much everyone that didn't involve surprise attacks or incapacity.
 
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