Team - [Fantasy] Raven Team (Gray and Kagura) vs. Reddish-Pinkish Team (Natsu and Erza) | MangaHelpers

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Basically you got two sides. Gray Fullbuster and Kagura Mikazuchi vs. Natsu Dragneel and Erza Scarlet.

Not really any restrictions, so feel free to argue the way you want. All feats can be used.

No time limit.

Takes place in Ruins of Tartaros Battlefield.

Starting position/length: 200 meters.
 

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I got for team Natsu and Erza , just because clearly Erza > Kagura , and natsu can handle gray just fine..
 

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Hmm, I'd go for Raven Team, but I totally see where you're going and it also makes sense. In reality, it'd probably be Natsu and Erza, but personally, I think it may go either way; however, the way I see it, Gray and Kagura makes more sense to me.
 

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I'd probably go with Natsu and Erza. Simply because Erza > Kagura and Natsu and Gray are pretty much on the same level. Nevertheless it still would be incredibly close.
 

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Natsu oneshots Gray and Kagura with a roar (FD or FDK take your pick). I am serious here, Bluenote got oneshotted, Gray doesn't yet have the feats to give him Bluenote level durability let alone Bluenote+ level. Edit: Kagura is oneshotted in the same roar, or Erza handles her. I basically think Natsu can take Gray and Kagura, Erza can warm the pine.

The above is feats-only. My guess is Gray is about pre-skip Jura level, so that's in the same tier as Bluenote for durability maybe higher. Can someone at GMG Jura level beat Natsu? I doubt it.

Also, with Natsu = END, Gray could oneshot Natsu with devil slaying???
 
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Stomp thread for Team Natsu & Erza :pwned

Current Erza is stronger than Gray and Kagura and Natsu is much stronger than Gray.

And lel at Jura's durability being equal to Bluenote's :derp
 

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And lel at Jura's durability being equal to Bluenote's :derp
Bluenote durability is just too weak for Natsu. He practically fought Gildarts without getting hurt until Empyrean. And Empyrean sent him flying because it's so powerful, could Jura tank it too? (And we didn't see Bluenote KO'd what could have happened was Bluenote landed on the moon completely fine but was too far away from Tenrou ;) ) I think Jura is above but it's not a big difference. Bluenote gets downgraded hard because of Natsu's roar but he was probably a Jura level person before the timeskip and people will probably have said he's got pretty good durability for taking on Gildarts in close combate.
 

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In my opinion:

Gray instafreeze Natsu.

Kagura traps Erza in Gravity and slices her neck off.

Raven Team wins easy diff.


P.S.:

Yes, I was joking on how the battle goes (read above) for those who thought I was serious. But you see where I'm going, Raven team (in my opinion) has a huge advantages.
 

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Gray and Kagura win high diff.

Kagura > Erza mid diff.
Kagura & Gray > Natsu high diff.
 

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Base Natsu at this point has better feats than DeS Gray. Even the punch he used against the Alvarez fodders is on the level of Gray's Ice-Make: Silver aoe-wise, but can actually cause damage to his targets. That's base Natsu versus Gray already half-demonized. If we add Fire Dragon King spells to the mix, then Natsu has the best punches in the series right now with demolition fist. The only spells I can think are stronger are those punches that he used against Zeref using Igneel's power and Acnologia's punches. If we factor in stuff like Dragon Force, Natsu also gets a further power boost and speed boost that outclasses Jellal's meteor. Natsu has the advantage in speed and power.

Erza was already on the same level with Kagura prior to releasing second origin. Even though Kagura can definitely make her struggle and was arguably her superior, Erza was still able to block a cut from archnemsis and hit Kagura. The difference between the two was not insurmountable. Now Erza has released second origin and unlocked nakagami armour, I see Erza as being a higher level than Kagura. She's also gone up against opponents like Ajeel, and is actually able to deal enough damage to him to knock him out.

There's also the added factor of switching opponents. I've seen nothing from Kagura to suggest she has higher durability than someone like Jura. Opponents like Bluenote can go toe to toe with Gildarts for a few exchanges, and is arguably on Jura's level. I honestly see nothing stopping Natsu from oneshotting Kagura, especially when you factor the FDK spells. On the other hand, I don't see Gray oneshotting Erza. Even if you say that Gray is stronger than Erza, she would still hold out for a while against him. She did, after all, hold out against Ajeel.
 
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^Gray isn't stronger than Erza.
 

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Natsu and Erza. Low difficulty, maybe less.

Natsu can go toe to toe with Suzaku, defend himself against his attacks and tank blasts from Dragon Gods. Erza can survive hours worth of damage and overpower Gildarts' tier opponent's Magic Power.

Gray is not weak by any means, but he's probably a whole tier below Natsu and Erza. Kagura is fodder.
 
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Natsu and Erza low-diff. They are both individually far stronger than Gray when they go all-out, Kagura is nowhere as strong as any of them.
 
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