Fantasy Gajeel vs Mirajane

[Biri Biri]

Mira. Aerial advantage, nukes, and hax that would beat Gajeel in an instance.

Aerial advantage is likely a non factor as Gajeel has previously shown the ability to direct his roar up towards the sky.

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Gajeel's nukes are probably more devastating that anything we have seen Mira mustered up so far. Mira is also hardly any faster than Gajeel, given the mobility he is granted with his shadows.

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So the only advantage Mira has over Gajeel is versatility. I will have to go with Gajeel for the win.

 

[Jko]

Aerial advantage is likely a non factor as Gajeel has previously shown the ability to direct his roar up towards the sky.

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Gajeel's nukes are probably more devastating that anything we have seen Mira mustered up so far. Mira is also hardly any faster than Gajeel, given the mobility he is granted with his shadows.

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So the only advantage Mira has over Gajeel is versatility. I will have to go with Gajeel for the win.

Easy to evade like MG did to Gray's roar.

Gajeel and nukes? Where? His AoE is pathetic and he got overwhelmed by AoE already by Torafuza's curse twice lol.

Mira's flight reached from the bottom to the top of the Mercurius in a split second.

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That's faster than what Gajeel's shadow has shown lol.

Mira's speed, strength, mp, and hax are all better than Gajeel's. Macro he's done, use Torafuza's water dome and he's in the same predicament as he was in both Torafuza and Bloodman's fight, uses Kyouka's Sense curse he's done, Ezel's cutter curse does pretty well against his Iron scales, Jackal's bomb curse produce way bigger nukes, and uses Algeria he's done. These are just some of the ways she could win. Gajeel would've been smoked by Bloodman if he used half of the 9D curses effectively lmao. Mira's practically the same as Bloodman but has better phyiscal abilities and would use hax curses like Macro lol.

 

[Samael Morningstar]

Gajeel should take it

 

[LaGOAT]

Easy to evade like MG did to Gray's roar.

Gajeel and nukes? Where? His AoE is pathetic and he got overwhelmed by AoE already by Torafuza's curse twice lol.

Mira's flight reached from the bottom to the top of the Mercurius in a split second.

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That's faster than what Gajeel's shadow has shown lol.

Mira's speed, strength, mp, and hax are all better than Gajeel's. Macro he's done, use Torafuza's water dome and he's in the same predicament as he was in both Torafuza and Bloodman's fight, uses Kyouka's Sense curse he's done, Ezel's cutter curse does pretty well against his Iron scales, Jackal's bomb curse produce way bigger nukes, and uses Algeria he's done. These are just some of the ways she could win. Gajeel would've been smoked by Bloodman if he used half of the 9D curses effectively lmao. Mira's practically the same as Bloodman but has better phyiscal abilities and would use hax curses like Macro lol.

Mira got restrictions bro read the thread

 

[Jko]

Mira got restrictions bro read the thread

Just erase everything about Seliah in my post lol.

 

[Axiomus]

I'll reserve final judgement until after Natsu vs Gajeel and Lucy vs. Strauss Siblings concludes, but based off their Alvarez performance I'm going with Gajeel. Gajeel was one of the only people to actually kill his Spriggan opponent. Bloodman had all of Tartarus' curses, and Over Skelter is an even more powerful curse. Even if Bloodman could have turned the tide with other curses, he couldn't actually get his bearings when Gajeel was laying a beating on him. Once Gajeel had the ability to touch Bloodman, he was too fast and too strong for Bloodman.

 

[Jko]

Over skelter wouldn't even be in top 5 of the Tartarus curse. That sh!t was so weak, Levy took it with minimal damage and Gajeel in base was able to swim out of it. He got hurt more by MG's thorns then he did Over skelter lol.

 

[Biri Biri]

Easy to evade like MG did to Gray's roar.

Gajeel and nukes? Where? His AoE is pathetic and he got overwhelmed by AoE already by Torafuza's curse twice lol.

Mira's flight reached from the bottom to the top of the Mercurius in a split second.

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That's faster than what Gajeel's shadow has shown lol.

Mira's speed, strength, mp, and hax are all better than Gajeel's. Macro he's done, use Torafuza's water dome and he's in the same predicament as he was in both Torafuza and Bloodman's fight, uses Kyouka's Sense curse he's done, Ezel's cutter curse does pretty well against his Iron scales, Jackal's bomb curse produce way bigger nukes, and uses Algeria he's done. These are just some of the ways she could win. Gajeel would've been smoked by Bloodman if he used half of the 9D curses effectively lmao. Mira's practically the same as Bloodman but has better phyiscal abilities and would use hax curses like Macro lol.

Gajeel had fought Panther Lily, who possess the ability of flight with his magic. During their battle, Gajeel was shown capable of performing very high leaps from the ground located several meters below him, to engage in midair confrontations with Lily, who was flying in midair because of his Aera. He bombarded Lily with a barrage of punches, then a roar, which blew a hole through the floating island.

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This is the same magic which allowed Happy to to fly at great speed.

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Lily is fast enough to evade some of Azuma's attacks. And Azuma is able to clash evenly with Mira and Erza during Tenrou Island arc, even getting the upperhand over them on several instances.

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Gajeel's ability to close the distance quickly and past performance against foes with power of flight, should render Mira's aerial advantage a non-factor. Mira's strength also pales in comparison to Gajeel, who has shown he is strong enough to destroy a giant magical sword with his bare hands. And pinned down and hold still a giant, mechanical dragon constructed out of reinforced armour all by himself.

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Gajeel completely outpace and overwhelm Bloodman towards the end of the fight, eventually killing him. Mira has not shown the same level of strength.

 

[Jko]

Gajeel had fought Panther Lily, who possess the ability of flight with his magic. During their battle, Gajeel was shown capable of performing very high leaps from the ground located several meters below him, to engage in midair confrontations with Lily, who was flying in midair because of his Aera. He bombarded Lily with a barrage of punches, then a roar, which blew a hole through the floating island.

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This is the same magic which allowed Happy to to fly at great speed.

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Lily is fast enough to evade some of Azuma's attacks. And Azuma is able to clash evenly with Mira and Erza during Tenrou Island arc, even getting the upperhand over them on several instances.

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Gajeel's ability to close the distance quickly and past performance against foes with power of flight, should render Mira's aerial advantage a non-factor. Mira's strength also pales in comparison to Gajeel, who has shown he is strong enough to destroy a giant magical sword with his bare hands. And pinned down and hold still a giant, mechanical dragon constructed out of reinforced armour all by himself.

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Gajeel completely outpace and overwhelm Bloodman towards the end of the fight, eventually killing him. Mira has not shown the same level of strength.

Pantherlily is not as fast as Happy lol. Happy's quirk as an exceed has always been about raw speed. Did you forget Gajeel got trashed by the 7kins fodder subordinates and Mira while not at full magical power was able to fight on par with Azuma the arc afterwards?

Lily was enhanced by Wendy's sky dragon magic to dodge his explosion and was still fodderized lol.

Since when is destroying a sword anything? Natsu palmed Gajeel's Iron Roar like nothing when he got his mp back lmao. I see no reason why Mira who is obviously way more powerful than Natsu back in PH wouldn't be able to do the same.

He only pinned it down bcs he has Dragon Slayer magic which the Dorma Anim couldn't render useless.

Except none of this shows he can fight a person who has an aerial advantage bcs Lily had to come to Gajeel to to fight him in CQC. Mira has nukes there fore she can keep chuck them while being out of Gajeel's reach.

End of the fight where he got a temp upgrade to fight Bloodman. Mira however needed no upgrade and beat an S12 solo while being exhausted magical power wise so yeah her feat trumps his by a mile. Her stats are superior.

Now how is he supposed to deal with her hax lmao?

 

[Seven777]

Gajeel takes it handily, the only way I see it going otherwise is if Mira low diffs Lucy next time she's shown and then moves on to provide a challenging fight to either Natsu, Erza or Gray.

 

[LaGOAT]

Gajeel takes it handily, the only way I see it going otherwise is if Mira low diffs Lucy next time she's shown and then moves on to provide a challenging fight to either Natsu, Erza or Gray.

Which ain’t happening cuz she a MC so she would have to win or get help from natsu

 

[kaiiruuu]

Mira stays up the sky and spams Soul Extinction from above

 

[Axiomus]

Gajeel takes it handily, the only way I see it going otherwise is if Mira low diffs Lucy next time she's shown and then moves on to provide a challenging fight to either Natsu, Erza or Gray.

Honestly, if Mirajane ends up fighting Natsu, she has to straight up beat him to be above Gajeel. If Natsu can still beat her after Gajeel has exhausted most of his power, then then Gajeel is simply stronger.

 

[Axiomus]

There was zero magical power and only a tiny amount of iron in Bloodman's particles. Eating Bloodman's particles would have given Gajeel less magical power than eating a chunk of iron from Levy's solid script. It didn't really make Gajeel any stronger. It just made it so that he could touch Bloodman. Once he could actually touch Bloodman, Gajeel easily dominated the fight.

If Gajeel was facing Jacob, who isn't intangible in the first place, it would be a stomp. Gajeel gave Natsu way harder of a fight than Jacob.

 

[Jko]

He got a power up to fight Bloodman. A transformation = a power up. He needed Levy's help and was scrubbed by second seal lol.

MCB's miniscule amount of iron is special otherwise he would have turned into MCBs when he ate it.

He also got his fist wrapped in a magical aura which he did not have prior or after that fight. It was also heavily implied he went Dragon's Force as well.

Sting ate Rogue's magic and got a huge boost and Rogue who was basically out of magic from the fight with Historia Wall lol.

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Jacob forced Natsu into a stronger state and beat Natsu while he was getting help from Lucy. Trying to to downplay Jacob bcs he was in the guild thus Natsu was nerfed doesnt work as Natsu fought Zeref in the guild. Also Alvarez Natsu >>>>> Current Natsu. Dude has trouble vaping water now yet he was vaping Lake Sciliora with his body heat alone in Alvarez.

 

[Axiomus]

There's nothing special about the iron in Bloodman's anti magic particles. Heck, the fact that it's anti-magic particles might even have adverse effects on Gajeel's magical power reserves and cancel out whatever tiny amount of magic power the iron recovered for him. The form that Gajeel entered was never stated to be dragon force either. So really, all eating Bloodman's particles did was allow Gajeel to touch Bloodman.

Bloodman was never going to defeat Gajeel with 2nd seal. Even if Levy hadn't interfered, Gajeel would have broken out of 2nd seal just like he broke out of Over Skelter. Over Skelter was Bloodman's 3rd seal, and by his own admission the strongest curse in his arsenal. It's literally a stronger version of the skulls that made up 2nd seal.

Natsu isn't any weaker now than he was during Alvarez Arc. What vaporized the waters in Lake Scilliora was the heat from the FDK flames that Natsu released behind him. It's much harder to get a flame going when you're at the bottom of the sea than it is when you're above water. If Natsu was underwater, he wouldn't have been able to get a flame going in the first place. It was specifically stated that it was good thing Natsu didn't go all out when they were inside the guild. Against Zeref, Natsu eventually said "screw it" and went all out with Dragon Force. The demolition he used blew out the walls of the guild, and Natsu was sorry that it did. That was the exactly what he was avoiding.

 

[Jko]

There's nothing special about the iron in Bloodman's anti magic particles. Heck, the fact that it's anti-magic particles might even have adverse effects on Gajeel's magical power reserves and cancel out whatever tiny amount of magic power the iron recovered for him. The form that Gajeel entered was never stated to be dragon force either. So really, all eating Bloodman's particles did was allow Gajeel to touch Bloodman.

Bloodman was never going to defeat Gajeel with 2nd seal. Even if Levy hadn't interfered, Gajeel would have broken out of 2nd seal just like he broke out of Over Skelter. Over Skelter was Bloodman's 3rd seal, and by his own admission the strongest curse in his arsenal. It's literally a stronger version of the skulls that made up 2nd seal.

Natsu isn't any weaker now than he was during Alvarez Arc. What vaporized the waters in Lake Scilliora was the heat from the FDK flames that Natsu released behind him. It's much harder to get a flame going when you're at the bottom of the sea than it is when you're above water. If Natsu was underwater, he wouldn't have been able to get a flame going in the first place. It was specifically stated that it was good thing Natsu didn't go all out when they were inside the guild. Against Zeref, Natsu eventually said "screw it" and went all out with Dragon Force. The demolition he used blew out the walls of the guild, and Natsu was sorry that it did. That was the exactly what he was avoiding.

It is special as it turned into MCBs. Regular iron doesn't change someone genetic structure and give special properties to iron magic. There was clear indication that the iron in the MCBs was special. Yet it was heavily implied that it was DF. No, it gave him a transformation which is a boost and he even got an aura around his iron magic which he doesn't have without the form.

Bloodman was destroying Gajeel to the point he needed Levy to escape 2nd Seal. That statement mean nothing since Overskelter doesn't have the feats to match his second seal or top tier 9D curses. Gajeel needed help to get out of 2S yet he was able to get himself and Levy out 3S with no problem. One could say that it was complete plot armor that got him out which is why 3S looked pathetic.

He is way weaker than his Alvarez form. His stamina is a lot less than what is was in Alvarez. He gets tired from not even going FDKM which didn't tire him in Alvarez. He is having a harder with weaker opponents than he won against.

It was his body heat was vaping the lake, his flames just instantly did it.

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He couldn't even boil the sea water in the WDG arc lol. Do you honestly think Natsu was holding back from Zeref? You think held back more on Zeref than he did with War God and Bakel? He even used FDK big attacks on fodder. SF > FDK yet SF didn't destroy the guild.

 

[Axiomus]

The iron is just iron. He absorbed some anti-magic particles along with it, which changed the properties of his magic to match Bloodman's curse. That in turned allowed him to touch Bloodman. It didn't boost Gajeel's overall magic power or make him hit harder.

Bloodman literally said that Over Skelter was stronger than the 9 Demon Gate Curses, and Over Skelter is actually his 3rd seal. Both attack is just Bloodman flooding the area with a bunch of skulls, only difference is Over Skelter is considered by Bloodman to be better. If Gajeel could break out of Over Skelter, he could break out of 2nd seal.

Natsu is not any weaker. There's a huge difference between being able to vaporize a lake when you are above water and can get a flame going, and trying to boil away an entire sea when you're underwater and can't light a flame in the first place. There's absolutely nothing to suggest that Natsu has been nerfed. He's simply fighting stronger opponents (and Gajeel is one of them), and can't boil away an entire sea when he's underwater. The very first page of the 100 years quest even says that Fairy Tail is back and stronger than ever, so I dunno why you think the main characters are nerfed.

Gajeel being able to push Natsu to near exhaustion just tells us how durable Gajeel is for being able to tank so many attacks. Natsu is still capable of using multiple FDK spells without exhausting himself during the Mercphobia arc. That hasn't changed. Now we don't know if Gajeel has taken any FDK attacks, because the fight was offscreened. But Gajeel is at least durable enough for Natsu to run low on power from using multiple LFD attacks. For all we know, Gajeel may have indeed taken multiple FDK spells.

Where are you getting the idea that Natsu was holding back against Zeref? Natsu used up all his power against Zeref when he entered dragon force and used Demolition Fist. That damaged the guild. He didn't go all out against Jacob until he left the guild, and this is explicitly given in a statement. Even when Natsu did go all out, it was never to the point where he exhausted himself. None of Natsu's opponents during the 100YQ are weaker than Jacob.















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[Jko]

Iron doesn't make you change on a cellular level and give you a transformation so no, it's not regular iron. I have feats that literally show the iron ain't regular and you just say oh well it's regular iron. Like you have proven nothing to say it's regular iron. No, Gajeel literally changed into MCBs which is why he was gonna die without UO. Regular iron doesn't boost Gajeel and give him new abilities and a transformation. Only special properties of their element can do that to a DS.

And 3S proved less effective than 2S so again 3S is weaker than 2S or it was plot force that got him out. He didn't break out of 2S and Levy needed to get him out 2S. There's like nothing that showed he could get out of it himself.

Again, he raised his body heat to do that not his fire. He doesn't have to ignite anything to vape water as his heat radiating from his body can do that alone. Even when he was out of the water and wqs having a hard time downing Madmole, he didn't even boil the water below the boat. Heck he didn't melt the ship lol. And? The side notes were saying Bluenote was able rival Gild yet that wasn't true lol. Editor notes don't really have a bearing on the actual story.

Gajeel was taking a bunch of attacks that were less than FDKM. Natsu wasn't really doing jack to Jacob without going FDKM and was getting dominated with Lucy without it. I'm talking FDKM not Base level FDK. He was able to use FDKM which is strongest form outside of DF without exhaustion yet he's out of magic from fighting in LFD and Base? Lol, his endurance as went down a lot. Heck he went back to back in multiple fights in Alvarez and yet he's tired from one lol.

So he wasn't going all out before that? I'm asking do you think Natsu was holding back more then when he fought fodder, War God, and Bakel? Bcs the same thing he did with Jacob was done with Zeref. You're acting like Natsu has to cause massive destruction to perform his stronger attacks. He has AP which is as high DC. Natsu took heck of time to do one attack that destroy the guild so again it was practically the same thing he did with Jacob. So again do you think he took Jacob and Zeref lighter than he did fodder? He used FDK on weaker opponents than the S12 and Zeref yet he only uses them once against both Jacob and Zeref so either you think he is taking fodder more seriously or that him not spamming major DC attacks doesn't mean he's not fighting seriously via the AP of his attacks.

Madmole got roasted and KOed by a weaker attack than Jacob got KOed by and Jacob only had a scratch as the after effect of that punch...yet he's not weaker than Jacob? Other S12 like Brandish get banned from the fights because they're too OP to fight the DEs lol. These opponents besides WW and DGs are weaker than Jacob.

 

[Axiomus]

It is regular iron. It's a tiny amount of regular iron mixed in with what is mostly anti magic particles. The iron is what allowed Gajeel to absorb the anti magic particles, and the anti magic particles changed the properties of Gajeel's magic to match Bloodman's curse. Any boost in magic power would have came from the tiny amount of iron in the particles. It's small amount of iron without any magic power.

3rd seal is stronger than 2nd seal, and Over Skelter was considered by Bloodman himself to be stronger than any of the 9 Demon Gate's curses. Gajeel would have gotten out of 2nd Seal the exact same way he broke free from Over Skelter. Both attacks are virtually the same thing. Bloodman is trying to drown you out in a sea of skulls. The only difference is Over Skelter is better at sucking the life out of you.

Even if you argue that Natsu could vaporize the lake without flames, he simply wasn't trying to do that when he was underwater. He wasn't trying to boil away the sea. He was trying to generate some flames to punch with so he could actually fight. Also, Bluenote did rival Gildarts on Tenrou Island.

Madmole completely outclasses Jacob in durability. FDK mode is just Natsu releasing a bunch of FDK flames. When you use an FDK spell, you're hitting the target with FDK flames anyways. It makes pretty much no difference. The only thing FDK mode does is maybe burn up the other guy before you land your actual attack if he's got bad durability. Anyone who can tank getting blasted by the flames of an actual FDK spell, can already tank heat released by the mode. Jacob was burning up just by being in close proximity to the flames released by the mode. The actual demolition fist was overkill, and had Jacob completely wrecked. Madmole took the demolition fist head on, literally getting hit by the explosion at point blank. Not only was Madmole completely unharmed by this, he ended up making Natsu hurt his fist. Natsu had to resort to an even better spell to win a single exchange with Madmole, and Madmole wasn't even beaten. He got right back up. There is no comparison. Madmole can tank multiple attacks that would straight up wreck Jacob.

If you're asking me if I think Natsu's average attacks are on the same level as his demolition fist, then the simple answer is no. In any case, Natsu never fought Jacob with the same seriousness as he fought Zeref. Against Zeref, he had no choice but to go all out when he was still inside the guild. He went all out with dragon force and spent his entire reserve of power. Against Jacob, he held back until they were out of the guild. Then he defeated Jacob with a single demolition fist. After the fight, he felt that he was still in good enough shape to challenge August.