Fantasy Gray Vs Brandish

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Mirage

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Normally, that would true. But what about the instance where Gray had his "darkness mode" (for lack of a better term), and went toe to toe with partial END? A weaker(less demonized) version of partial END was strong enough to overpower Dimaria's hax.

I'm referring to this:
I completely forgot about END Natsu overpowering Dimaria's hax. Dimaria is superior to Brandish as well so the latter's hax should cancel out on Darkness Gray.

Though to be fair, Brandish does have better hax feats than Dimaria. Command T working on Base Natsu is more impressive than Age Seal working on Base Wendy and Chelia. I'm willing to overlook it just because of how fucked up Dimaria was after END Natsu was done with her, and Darkness Gray was matching him so.

Gray should win then.
 

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I completely forgot about END Natsu overpowering Dimaria's hax. Dimaria is superior to Brandish as well so the latter's hax should cancel out on Darkness Gray.

Though to be fair, Brandish does have better hax feats than Dimaria. Command T working on Base Natsu is more impressive than Age Seal working on Base Wendy and Chelia. I'm willing to overlook it just because of how fucked up Dimaria was after END Natsu was done with her, and Darkness Gray was matching him so.

Gray should win then.
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I'm not really sure about that. Dimaria's hax worked on Brandish as well, not just Wendy and Chellia. Who has higher magic power, Brandish or base Natsu? They could be around similar levels as well.
 

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Gray wasn't in darkness mode tho. It was used only against partial END.

partial END was strong enough to overpower Dimaria's hax in a weaker (less demonized) state than when he fought Gray. Gray had some advantage with Devil Slayer magic (not as much as against actual demons tho, since Natsu was still mostly human), but he was matching partial END in speed, strength and attack power. Darkness Gray is definitely partial END tier, so he would be strong enough to resist Brandish's hax (assuming Brandish and Dimaria has around same magic power)
That doesn't mean Gray's power was like END's in type or in amount.

Gray can simply fight at that level when he's emotionally powered.

Natsu oneshotted Enchanted Neinhart. Brandish' power works on Natsu but not Enchanted Neinhart, yet combat wise, Natsu is superior.

Look, for the sake of this discussion, if I ignore the instant oneshot ability, Gray wins both rounds. It might just be that PoF can spike up and make FT hax immune - that would not surprise me.
 

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I'm not really sure about that. Dimaria's hax worked on Brandish as well, not just Wendy and Chellia. Who has higher magic power, Brandish or base Natsu? They could be around similar levels as well.
Base Natsu for sure lmao.
 

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Gray stomps since no restrictions, darkness gray was on par with END who is above brandish's weight class
 

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Both jobbers. I'll back Gray since he tends to job less.
 

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even Darkness Gray is not having more MP than Brandish. She one-shot.
 

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Gray is so underrated when I see the votes.
The most ironic thing is that if you see the votes of characters overrated, Gray is supposedly considered overrated, it's too ridiculous despite how he is despised here, Gray loses a fight and boom the exaggeration, Natsu or Erza lose a fight and the great amount of excuses they get.
 

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The most ironic thing is that if you see the votes of characters overrated, Gray is supposedly considered overrated, it's too ridiculous despite how he is despised here
Yes, I have seen that. He is the most overrated character just after Mirajane.... Well, like you said, a clear paradox despite how he is despised here. A bad joke.
 

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gray is underrated, not overrated
 

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Yes, I have seen that. He is the most overrated character just after Mirajane.... Well, like you said, a clear paradox despite how he is despised here. A bad joke.
Yes, it doesn't make sense
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gray is underrated, not overrated
And that's the irony here for some he is supposedly overrated
 

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Yes, it doesn't make sense
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And that's the irony here he's supposedly overrated
nah, brandish is overrated
 

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gray is underrated, not overrated
Yes, he is underrated by far, here. We made an analogy between the result here and the topic of "the most overrated characters" where Gray has the most votes with Mirajane. Like Zero001 said, it doesn't make sense.
 

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Can't Brandish just one shot him with her hax from the start? I mean her power did work on him in 100 years quest and there's no evidence that he can or has the type of magical power or the volume of said power to just cancel out her hax.
 

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If Gray is in his 'darkness' mode, there isn't any argument for Brandish haxing him at all. Considering he was outright equal to partial END, when a less demonized END overpowered Dimaria's hax and no diff'd her

This is even ignoring the baseless scaling of Brandish's MP above x793 DeS Gray, and her "organ burst" in combat.
 

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Brandish should take this
 

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Gray starts in devil slayer mode. No restrictions for Brandish






Round 1: no "darkness" mode
Round 2: darkness mode allowed

Who wins, and what difficulty?
R1: Brandish, maybe
R2: Gray destroys
 

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Brandish stomp, Even "Darkness" Gray is not beating her. It was already stated that END has time resistance which allow him to moove in Dimaria timestop. It was never said that Darkness Gray has more MP than Brandish, but the opposite was shown.
 
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