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Irene was more angry about her past misfortunes than struggling which made her less stable, Erza really took advantage of Wendy's surprise attacks too along with enchantments and they did not provide significant damage then.
 

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It’s not a wank I can promise you that much.
1.) the power scaling in ft is VERY bad..
2.) still to this moment… spriggan 12 is STILL hax. The only person who recently has been seen as hax is Ignia seeing as his fire can burn things that can’t be burned. But the rest aren’t. Suzuka maybe strong but at the end of the day he’s not beating Irene and tbvh neither is the moon god dragon. Nothing they have shown outdo what we seen from Irene… I mean literally she rearranged a whole continent .., she created two entities from a slither of her power alone.

august and Irene is mad hax and tbvh if Irene and August teamed up.. this quest that natsu and co is doing currently would be light work.
You're kidding. Suzaku would slap Eileen no diff. Same with Selene. They could beat August and Eileen at the same time. rearranging the continent means literally nothing, as does making people from swords.
 

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Selene is very much likely weaker than Acno, Suzaku really "won" because she did not have the magic immunity like Acno did. Actually it does it is compression which takes energy to do that.
 

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Because of that fact that Eileen struggled against Erza + Wendy. And then Erza held her own against human Eileen after Wendy was down.




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Any DG no diffs all Spriggans combined
Eileen didn't struggle against erza+wendy. She was laughing throughout.
Erza did hold her own against human Eileen after wendy fell. But didn't ff arc natsu also hold his own against ff laxus in the last round. I thought you believed pre ts laxus was far above erza + natsu + gray + lucy + wendy
But now you seems to believe pre ts laxus was pre ts natsu tier
 

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Eileen didn't struggle against erza+wendy. She was laughing throughout.
Erza did hold her own against human Eileen after wendy fell. But didn't ff arc natsu also hold his own against ff laxus in the last round. I thought you believed pre ts laxus was far above erza + natsu + gray + lucy + wendy
But now you seems to believe pre ts laxus was pre ts natsu tier
No she wasn't. Erza and Wendy managed to land a few blows. The duo basically countered everything Eileen tried until Eileen jumped bodies.

On bold part.
I believe he's individually far above them, Collectively, nope

Also, Laxus managed to destroy Natsu and Gajeel with a single roar, justifying Laxus >>> Natsu/Gajeel. Natsu/Gajeel managed to do something only after Laxus wasted most of his MP casting FL on the entire city
Human Eileen tried to put Erza down, but failed. Erza dodged and tanked Eileen's explosions. She needed dragon form to put down Erza, and of course I agree dragon Eileen >> Erza in stats
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Look at this chapter and tell me this isn't a near even fight. People are getting ridiculous
 
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Irene did struggle against Erza and Wendy. Erza straight up cut down her dragon form.
This is Erza headbutting Irene after that. Look at Irene's condition. She is wounded and tired.

Harvest Festival Laxus arguably solos the guild. Only reason Laxus lost was because he wasted his power on Fairy Law. Had Laxus actually viewed Fairy Tail as his enemies, and Fairy Law actually worked on them, he would have beaten everyone. Tenrou Laxus was still a bit ahead of team Natsu, scaling from LFD Natsu. GMG is when Erza, and to a certain extent Natsu, started catching up. But all this is irrelevant.

Anyways, Wendy didn't really do anything special. She created barriers to block Irene's explosion and enchanted Erza's sword with dragon slaying magic. Jellal can make better barriers, and Laxus is already an Erza-tier dragon slayer. Being able to stop Irene from countering an enchantments is irrelevant here. No enchantment that Wendy can cast is better than straight up adding Gildarts to your team.
 

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Irene was caught off guard both times but Erza was still too weak to defeat her and had help as well, not too wounded to make a killing blow, which would have been Erza, he could only really solo everyone at once is if it was with FL, Erza was doing rather fine before she left to take care of the Thunder Palace, She cast barriers, create enchantments which enhanced Erza's strength, and gifted her with DS at the end which did not help, so the entire fight with Irene was Erza amped by Wendy both when she was in her body and in Irenes and could not take down Irene who is already above Spriggan tier as Laxus struggled against a regular Spriggan too.
 

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Irene was caught off guard both times but Erza was still too weak to defeat her and had help as well, not too wounded to make a killing blow, which would have been Erza, he could only really solo everyone at once is if it was with FL, Erza was doing rather fine before she left to take care of the Thunder Palace, She cast barriers, create enchantments which enhanced Erza's strength, and gifted her with DS at the end which did not help, so the entire fight with Irene was Erza amped by Wendy both when she was in her body and in Irenes and could not take down Irene who is already above Spriggan tier as Laxus struggled against a regular Spriggan too.
Doesn't matter. Still proves that Irene struggled massively against Erza and Wendy. Erza cut down Irene's strongest spell and her strongest form. Irene was exhausted and injured by the end of the fight. Pointing out that Irene got caught off guard just proves my point. Erza and Wendy are fast enough to catch Irene off guard and land shots.

Naw, Laxus could have cleaned up everyone if he just didn't waste his power. Everyone else was already defeated from Thunder Palace. All Laxus needed to win was an extra Heavenward Halberd aimed at Natsu.

Jellal's barriers are straight up better than Wendy's. The enchantments that Wendy did cast at the start of the battle would have worn off when Wendy fell unconscious. It wasn't until Wendy woke up and enchanted Erza's sword again did Erza get any sort of a boost. Not that this matters. No buff that Wendy can put Erza will outweigh the benefits of literally adding Gildarts to your team.

Laxus struggled against organ failure. He stomped the Spriggan as soon as he recovered, and had gas left over to beat Hades afterwards.
 

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Struggled is a strong word, anger is more the proper term for her past misfortunes, Erza was amped afterall in those situations. she was not, injured yes but not exhausted, she was still capable of fighting but then committed suicide, That is incorrect as she was distracted by flashbacks and keeping her occupied.

And yet Gajeel intercepted with his lightning rod, so he could not clean house with them all at once without FL, Erza reacted point blank and was unharmed by his Lightning attacks with her Lightning Empress Armor.

Jellal's barriers are good but not enough to stop Irene's power, not really as it was Irene's enchantment, not Wendy's and that would have been removed with Deus Zero, so it was Irene's boost which Erza was fighting with. Laxus only had organ failure when he has attacks, but still operated at the top of his game without those attacks, he did not stomp anything until he was wounded enough to get the boost from Red Lightning. Hades is an ant in comparison.
 

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Doesn't matter. Still proves that Irene struggled massively against Erza and Wendy. Erza cut down Irene's strongest spell and her strongest form. Irene was exhausted and injured by the end of the fight. Pointing out that Irene got caught off guard just proves my point. Erza and Wendy are fast enough to catch Irene off guard and land shots.

Naw, Laxus could have cleaned up everyone if he just didn't waste his power. Everyone else was already defeated from Thunder Palace. All Laxus needed to win was an extra Heavenward Halberd aimed at Natsu.

Jellal's barriers are straight up better than Wendy's. The enchantments that Wendy did cast at the start of the battle would have worn off when Wendy fell unconscious. It wasn't until Wendy woke up and enchanted Erza's sword again did Erza get any sort of a boost. Not that this matters. No buff that Wendy can put Erza will outweigh the benefits of literally adding Gildarts to your team.

Laxus struggled against organ failure. He stomped the Spriggan as soon as he recovered, and had gas left over to beat Hades afterwards.
No she didn’t… lol u literally gave a panel of her head butting Ezra and she got right up and even took Ezra sword without her realizing
 

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No she didn’t… lol u literally gave a panel of her head butting Ezra and she got right up and even took Ezra sword without her realizing
Yeah she did. Erza cut down Irene's strongest spell and her dragon form. The headbutt that Erza gave her? Made Irene cough up blood. Irene absolutely struggled against Erza and Wendy. This is not the face of someone whose having an easy time winning a fight.

 

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she beats them with a finger flick???

erza? nope, irene? yes
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Because of that fact that Eileen struggled against Erza + Wendy. And then Erza held her own against human Eileen after Wendy was down.




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Any DG no diffs all Spriggans combined
Yeahhhhhhh no. keep on dreaming DG wanker.

irene and august alone are DG tier LOL. DGS arent as Op as acnologia deal with it

spriggan 12 (at once)>All 4 DG

None of them immune to larcades hax or TS LOL
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Selene is very much likely weaker than Acno, Suzaku really "won" because she did not have the magic immunity like Acno did. Actually it does it is compression which takes energy to do that.
Honestly if selene did lose to suzaku then shes nowhere near acno tier
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LOL at suzaku no diffing irene. go on and wank suzaku cause he still not beating her

irene>>>selene if selene did lose to suzaku (suzaku is a weak fodder so if he beat selene then that means that selene is also weak and not spriggan tier)
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Yeah she did. Erza cut down Irene's strongest spell and her dragon form. The headbutt that Erza gave her? Made Irene cough up blood. Irene absolutely struggled against Erza and Wendy. This is not the face of someone whose having an easy time winning a fight.

Cool how does erza making irene struggle means that somehow the boys can do it to? show proof that the boys can make irene struggle im waiting
 

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Cool how does erza making irene struggle means that somehow the boys can do it to? show proof that the boys can make irene struggle im waiting
Laxus alone is Erza's equal.

Gildarts and Jellal obviously make for stronger supports than Wendy.
 

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Yeah she did. Erza cut down Irene's strongest spell and her dragon form. The headbutt that Erza gave her? Made Irene cough up blood. Irene absolutely struggled against Erza and Wendy. This is not the face of someone whose having an easy time winning a fight.

Dude…. You literally posted panels.
Blood does NOT indicate you losing. Lol have you not seen bleach, dbz. Blood is more for dramatics than an indication.
 

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Dude…. You literally posted panels.
Blood does NOT indicate you losing. Lol have you not seen bleach, dbz. Blood is more for dramatics than an indication.
I never said Irene was losing the fight. She was technically winning that fight. I said she was struggling. Erza was cutting down her dragon form and making her cough blood.
 

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I never said Irene was losing the fight. She was technically winning that fight. I said she was struggling. Erza was cutting down her dragon form and making her cough blood.
But she wasn’t struggling though
 

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Which would mean that Laxus would not be able to win against Irene.
 

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Yeahhhhhhh no. keep on dreaming DG wanker.

irene and august alone are DG tier LOL. DGS arent as Op as acnologia deal with it

spriggan 12 (at once)>All 4 DG

None of them immune to larcades hax or TS LOL

Merc, while nerfed to less than half his powers, no sold DS attacks from x793 team Natsu and essentially no diff'd them. While dragon Eileen got one shot by x792 Erza.
full power DGs > nerfed Merc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dragon Eileen ~ August. End

Brandish straight up admitted that Aldo is too powerful for her hax to work on him. And Aldo woke up nerfed to begin with, on top of 4 God seeds already going down further nerfing him massively, by the time Brandish made her statement. Spriggan haxes like Time stop won't work on them, by feats
 

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Laxus alone is Erza's equal.

Gildarts and Jellal obviously make for stronger supports than Wendy.
Cool erza was holding back cause she does not wants to hurt friends

and if wendy did not do jack to irene lmao. jellal,laxus and gildarts getting destroy here sorry but its true
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Merc, while nerfed to less than half his powers, no sold DS attacks from x793 team Natsu and essentially no diff'd them. While dragon Eileen got one shot by x792 Erza.
full power DGs > nerfed Merc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dragon Eileen ~ August. End

Brandish straight up admitted that Aldo is too powerful for her hax to work on him. And Aldo woke up nerfed to begin with, on top of 4 God seeds already going down further nerfing him massively, by the time Brandish made her statement. Spriggan haxes like Time stop won't work on them, by feats
Cool thats called DS immunity, it could have been that Irene was not fully immune to DS magic yet lmao anyways i never talked about dragon forms i was talking about human forms where both august and irene are DG level (not including selene if she did lose to suzaku because then she would be a fodder since suzaku is a weak af fodder).

Cool and so was neinhart, yet if she enlarged herself to that size then she would have done just as good as gajeel since brandish>base gajeel (im sorry but everyone was scared shit of brandish's magic meanwhile they didn't feel a thing from gajeels) and irene and august>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brandish, which should atleast make them DG tier and above fodder suzaku who is just fodder wizard level

Show proof that timestop or other hax wont work since they aren't immune to magic like acno, there only hope is ignia whos fire is yet to be scalable to SF or igneel powered natsus.

anyways irene no diffs this ima write about this in another post
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Alright so everyone here should read and listen. irene wins and it isn't even close

Ok so first of all lets get started to her scaling with erza, irene was deadass holding back the entire feat cause she literally had feelings for her and she could have killed erza twice as it shows here
and again erza was enchanced by wendy for like half the fight and still was not able to do jack to her (irene was holding back and toying around with her) and she didn't just no sell this attack from a bloodlusted enchanted erza but she was also fast enough to make a flower like shape out of it
sure erza pushed her to dragon form and she was holding her own against irene but this does not mean that jellal,gildarts or laxus can do the same if they can show proof also just cause erza pushed irene to her dragon form does not mean that irene was at FP irene was just mad and wanted to get rid of erza quickly so thats why she wen't dragon form and again irene was holding back to some extent

another one of her feats is being no diffing mira by her presence alone
and then she tortures her like nothing
and sure she is mira and laxus,jellal and gildarts scale above her but they wont take out mira with there magic alone or beat her as easily at best laxus would about mid diff her same goes for jellal and gildarts would probably low-mid diff her but unlike them irene no diffed her with her very existance alone and ik this is not that impressive but she blocked a enchanted erzas attack like nothing. meaning she could easily do the same to laxus,jellal or gildarts


Next we have is her feats against acnologia. heres her literally surprising acno and pushing him back a bit (he literally struggled to stop it a bit as it shows him maintaining his spot on the ground)
then she blasted him back again (he was not able to see it) and this time it took him some time to maintain his spot (it should be obvious cause in the image it legit shows him struggling a little bit to stop from being blasted away)
and in here she effortlessly dodged an attack from a surpressed acnologia (you can tell by his expression that he was having fun and was trying a little bit)
oh did i hear wank? Oh i'm sorry but acnologia himself says that it is not wank and this should easily put her speed above everyone here like how are they even gonna tag her? and look she even caught acnos interest unlike the other 3


Next we have her scaling to august (i honestly think she is above him but whatever) here brandish states that irene rivals august in terms of power (in the anime she said that irene can actually be stronger then august tbh)
so this should atleast mean that irene=gildarts and we all know for a fact that august no diffed jellal and his guild and he was also no diffing gildarts and playing around with him till gildarts found out his weakness. and laxus is the weakest of the 3 so he should be slightly weaker then jellal. this should atleast mean that august>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>gildarts>jella>laxus and we all know that irene is atleast equal to august. heres more evidence that irene is atleast equal to august
and heres more proof (mira could not tell the difference between there magic power)
and again the moment lucy and mest saw base august they knew for the fact that even natsu or any other mage they knew could not beat them so that should include these 3. so now explain how the hell is someone that is atleast equal to august if not stronger gonna lose here? and gildarts the strongest one of the 3 admitted that if god serena was alive then he would be able to give him a extreme diff fight and only smart people know that irene>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>god serena.
whoever still thinks the trio wins idk what yall are smoking (everyone here stomps suzaku tho)

And then finally we have her hax and she has alot honestly like body switch she can just instant body switch with them as it shows here
none of the boys have a counter to this nor do they have a counter to her atmospheric energy blasts (the ones she used to blast acnologia back) and if it was enough to blast acno back and make him struggle a little then it will be a one shot against these fodders. and she can also make the ground explode etc + alot of enchantments and honestly i don't see the boys having a counter to each and every one of them. she can literally just transform them into rats or nullify there attacks into nothing but liquid like she did to erzas swords or irene can just give a buncha rocks life (like how she gave juliet and heine life since they were swords) and then enchant them to the point where even the trio would struggle against them and just one shot them when they are tired (she can one shot them if they are healthy to)

I dare someone to still argue on the boys behalf for me
 
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