Still a fact that Luffy alone couldn't have beaten Cracker or Doflamingo, he still needed help. Maybe he's superior if none of them were devil fruit users, but as it stands, they are stronger.
Wrong, if they were, it wouldn't take 1 blow to defeat Cracker and 5 to defeat Joker. Anyone can be powerful when they have a convenient ability, not everyone can be strong without their ability.
Ace was strong without his ability, tank blows from Blackbeard, defeat Vice-Admiral Draw without having to use his ability because he is physically strong and a great fighter.
Cracker's strength mainly comes from his ability since he can't even take the pain from an injection. He has to hide behind his ability in order to be a threat.There's a reason no one except a few know his true identity, even the WG do not.
Joker was even far more impressive, at least he was able to take a few hits before going down; Cracker only took one. Both Joker and Cracker are severely inferior to Luffy when in Gear 4th. Without abilities, Joker and Luffy were evenly matched, Cracker never showcased competence outside of his ability. If he can't even take a needle-prick, even Luffy in his base should have been enough to take him out if he didn't have his limitless supply of biscuits to cower behind.
Doflamingo took some hits from Luffy in Gear 2 and laughed, so I think that without Devil Fruits, Doflamingo would wip the floor with Luffy in a fist fight.
Cracker is more difficult to analyze. Luffy said that he had never seen a CoA as strong as his, yet Cracker was defeated the moment Luffy reached his real body. I guess his real body is so fragile that his CoA is not enough to protect him? Nonetheless Cracker is a competent swordman, and his CoA still has enough offensive power to cut Luffy in Gear 4. So if Cracker fought against Luffy without Devil Fruits it would all come to who hits the opponent first.
Doflamingo took some hits from Luffy in Gear 2 and laughed, so I think that without Devil Fruits, Doflamingo would wip the floor with Luffy in a fist fight.
First of all, we see Luffy isn't even using his Gears, yet a basic kick has Joker coughing up blood.
Basic punch here, don't think he was even in Gear 2nd here, yet Joker coughs blood up.
More basic kicks without even using Gear 2nd, and Joker is clearly hurt and taking damage.
So, how can you say Luffy's attacks were not effective? Why would he even block and dodge attacks wearily if they didn't carry power?
And yes, there's only ONE scene where Joker says Luffy's attacks were not effective, and there's a reason for that.
Before I proceed, it's a fact that an Eagle Bazooka is one of Luffy's most powerful attacks up there with Red Hawk.
If a basic kick and punch hurt and make Joker cough up blood and even raise an arm to defend, why wouldn't an Eagle Bazooka do much more damage? That's the question you have to ask yourself here. It's like a Kong Gun hurting an opponent, but a King Kong Gun not doing any damage, it makes no sense.
Only way to explain this is this, inertia which is defined as the resistance to movement. The more resistant to movement an object is, the greater its ability to to not absorb the full force of an impact. Friction is what determines resistance to movement.
Tie a piece of paper to a string, punch it with your entire strength, and what happens to the paper? Nothing, all that happens is you may push it a fair distance, but that's it.
Have someone hold this piece of paper and then punch it, what happens? Your fist my go right through it.
What's the difference? Friction determines resistance to movement. Resistance to movement influence the degree to which a force is absorbed. Joker on the ground absorbs the full impact of Luffy's blows because of friction; Joker in the air only gets pushed back like the paper and is undamaged because there's no resistance to movement, thus, significantly low aptitude to absorbing the full impact of an Eagle Bazooka that's far superior to a basic kick or punch; that's why he says there's NO WEIGHT to Luffy's punch there - this wasn't the case with all of Luffy's attacks, but just that Eagle Bazooka and that's what so many misconstrue and don't seem to notice.
Same thing, if you don't believe what I'm saying concerning friction. What do you think is easier. Pushing a car that's on the ground, or pushing a car that's tied to a crane? It may take significantly lower strength to push the car elevated in mid-air than a car that's on the ground because the difference in friction between the car in the aid and the car on the ground is vastly different with 1 being relatively lower than the other.
This is why Joker is known as the Heavenly Yaksha or Heavenly Demon, in the air, he's supreme because of his ability to weaken the effect of blows. This is why when Luffy challenged him to an aerial battle in their final clash, Joker snorted at Luffy taking the fight to the sky. In the sky, he is supreme, but Gear 4th is so monstrously strong it still impacted and landed a solid blow that knocked Joker out.
Cracker is more difficult to analyze. Luffy said that he had never seen a CoA as strong as his, yet Cracker was defeated the moment Luffy reached his real body. I guess his real body is so fragile that his CoA is not enough to protect him? Nonetheless Cracker is a competent swordman, and his CoA still has enough offensive power to cut Luffy in Gear 4. So if Cracker fought against Luffy without Devil Fruits it would all come to who hits the opponent first.
He said it was hard, but don't forget he broke through Cracker's Biscuit despite the fact it was imbued with Haki.
Haki isn't a stand alone factor.
If you're attacking, you have to take into account that... Force= Speed x Weight, so even with an inferior Haki, if the force of your attack is great, it can exceed the threshold of superior Haki. By increasing the weight of the attack, you can increase the force of the impact; by increasing the speed of your attack which is the simplest way to increase force, you can break through a defence that is superior.
From a defensive stand-point, there's no way to increase defensive threshold the way the force of a blow can potentially and infinitely be increased by changing either speed or weight. Defensive threshold will always be somewhat stagnant. So, even if Luffy was cut, it still doesn't mean Cracker's Haki was superior, an inferior Haki can cut through a superior Haki.
And like I said, Haki alone is not a standalone factor. Despite Luffy not even possessing Haki against the Gorgon sisters, he still defeated them with pure brute strength. Cracker may have had superior Haki, but he may not necessarily have had greater strength than Luffy.
That's... too many words to explain something simple: When Luffy used the Eagle Bazooka, you can see Doflamingo using Haki on his chest. When Luffy is exchanging blows, Doflamingo is trying to defend himself with Haki on his arms, but Luffy is hitting his face.
Nonetheless Luffy only managed to exchange blows with Doflamingo after Law damaged his internal organs. Before that, he could barely match Doflamingo speed, and his Haki wasn't strong enough to hold his blows.
Wrong, if they were, it wouldn't take 1 blow to defeat Cracker and 5 to defeat Joker. Anyone can be powerful when they have a convenient ability, not everyone can be strong without their ability.
Ace was strong without his ability, tank blows from Blackbeard, defeat Vice-Admiral Draw without having to use his ability because he is physically strong and a great fighter.
Cracker's strength mainly comes from his ability since he can't even take the pain from an injection. He has to hide behind his ability in order to be a threat.There's a reason no one except a few know his true identity, even the WG do not.
Joker was even far more impressive, at least he was able to take a few hits before going down; Cracker only took one. Both Joker and Cracker are severely inferior to Luffy when in Gear 4th. Without abilities, Joker and Luffy were evenly matched, Cracker never showcased competence outside of his ability. If he can't even take a needle-prick, even Luffy in his base should have been enough to take him out if he didn't have his limitless supply of biscuits to cower behind.
Nope, I'm right. Luffy couldn't beat Doflamingo on his own, nor could he have beaten Cracker without Nami. You can complain about devil fruit all you want, but it was Doflamingo's ability to fight along with his own mastery over his devil fruit and haki that kept him a tough opponent even after Law gave him a good stab. Cracker's mastery over his devil fruit and Color of Armament made it impossible for Luffy to win without help as well.
Let's recap. Luffy's ability is very convenient. Can't be hurt by most blunt attacks and can stretch. Helps him against most opponents superior than he is. It wasn't just one blow that took out Cracker, it was his own haki on his biscuit that did after being rebounded by Luffy's balloon stomach, if I recall. Let's not omit facts or twist things around. And "5" blows were after Doflamingo got stabbed, and if it weren't for the gladiators Doflamingo would have killed Luffy.
Nevertheless, it's still Cracker's own power that he mastered. He wouldn't be at the level he is if he didn't master his own power and color of Armament.
Wrong. Both are equal to or superior to Luffy in Gear 4. If Doflamingo was inferior, Luffy would have beaten him without losing his haki and needing to replenish. If Cracker was inferior, Luffy would have beaten Cracker without Nami's help and by attacking him instead of using Cracker's own haki biscuit against himself. And I forgot to mention we're mainly talking about a Doflamingo who was stabbed by Law.
Wrong. Only weak ones do not hurt him much, he's not immune, just has a higher than average resistance to blunt impact.
Luffy's ability requires stamina to use/ Joker's and Cracker's do not.
Luffy's ability hurts him/ Joker and Cracker's has no detrimental effect on their bodies or health.
Luffy's ability cannot rely on his ability to fight or emulates being aided by an army/ Joker and Cracker's ability can fight on their behalf and emulate taking on an army.
Luffy's ability is only useful in close-combat/ Joker and Cracker's is useful in any situation.
Luffy's ability cannot tank for him/ Joker and Cracker's ability can take infinitely take and tank any attacks leaving them physically unscathed.
Luffy's ability is only as strong as he is/ Joker and Cracker's ability have their own strength.
Anyone with a form of objectivity can clearly see that Luffy's ability is far less advantaged.
Wrong, you can't imbue things with Haki that were not in direct contact with yourself. Cracker's clones were not imbued with Haki, so, this is completely false.
He couldn't even cope with the defence. Gear 4th was superior in every way possible. Cracker couldn't even fight against Luffy alone, he needed an army just to take him on.
Lol, nonsense. Maybe it's because Joker went to hide and waited for Luffy's ability to drain him off his stamina and render him incapacitated... something not many abilities do. I don't see Joker or Cracker having to worry about using any techniques because of what it does to them physically.
One of Cracker's soldiers is far superior to Nami in strength, hell, it's even as strong if not stronger than Luffy in Gear 2nd. So, Nami helping Luffy is no different to Cracker's multitude of clones helping him.
Cracker's clones were the ones who man-handled Luffy, not Cracker with his own physical strength. Hell, the only time Cracker could land a blow was when Luffy thought he was dead. He can only rely on cheat shots. He's not that strong fighting with his own strength. As soon as his abilities are countered, he's fragile as Van Augur said.
Still a fact that Luffy alone couldn't have beaten Cracker or Doflamingo, he still needed help. Maybe he's superior if none of them were devil fruit users, but as it stands, they are stronger.
Regardless of Joker's difficulty against Gear 4, Luffy still would have lost if the gladiators didn't help save him and keep him away from Doflamingo. Doflamingo was still taking hits and getting back up.
Who knows? Cracker would have likely found a way around rain, otherwise he wouldn't have become a commander given rain is a natural element that can happen almost anywhere at any time. But then again, maybe Cracker would have hidden until the rain passed.
But if the rain did affect him, then it'd further prove Luffy's luck.
Regardless of Joker's difficulty against Gear 4, Luffy still would have lost if the gladiators didn't help save him and keep him away from Doflamingo. Doflamingo was still taking hits and getting back up.
Joker wasn't getting back up, he hid behind his strings until Luffy couldn't maintain it any longer. Joker couldn't have taken 20 minutes worth of attacks or he'd have been defeated within minutes. He had no way to defend, hurt or or avoid Luffy in Gear 4th without hiding.
Who knows? Cracker would have likely found a way around rain, otherwise he wouldn't have become a commander given rain is a natural element that can happen almost anywhere at any time. But then again, maybe Cracker would have hidden until the rain passed.
But if the rain did affect him, then it'd further prove Luffy's luck.
No one has seen Cracker before meaning that he was rarely if ever in a circumstance that could lead to his defeat, no one has got past his first soldier.Point being, rain wasn't an issue. In Luffys case, Cracker could not have hidden until the rain passed as the outcome would remain the same as with Nami there...
Luffy vs Cracker is an extremely circumstantial fight. And Luffy has had luck (like every MC) throughout the series, how is that something that needs proving? He wasn't lucky in defeating Cracker - as Luffy already demonstrated the ability to defeat him, rather Cracker's weakness being rain was lucky for Luffy (in a similar way to Cracker fighting close range fighters would be lucky for him).
Joker wasn't getting back up, he hid behind his strings until Luffy couldn't maintain it any longer. Joker couldn't have taken 20 minutes worth of attacks or he'd have been defeated within minutes. He had no way to defend, hurt or or avoid Luffy in Gear 4th without hiding
Nobody can defeat an opponent with powers he does not understand. Smart course of action it was to avoid Luffy, and still was able to wait for the right moment. Luffy would have lost without help.
Lets debate, just one thing. Remember that no one has the true so calling dumb someone wont fix anything. Also, there might be quotes that we will need to bring in context the whole paragraph to understand what it truly means and lets accept when we are wrong if it is proven the whole context of the quote.
FIRST ENCOUNTER - Joker's punches Luffy square in the face
Kyros is unaware that the Joker he decapitated was his clone (Black Knight) - the real Joker is about to decapitate him in return.
Kyros is saved by Luffy while Joker and his Black Knight are in the vicinity.
Luffy attacks the real Joker, but forgets about the Black Knight (clone).
Due to being careless as to not consider the clone (AKA distraction), he gets met with a punch to the face because the clone attacks him from the back.
This was only possible due to distraction, not superiority.
Wrong, reason? The distraction was made from Doflamingo which means that it was thanks to Doflamingo that he did a direct hit. Luffy knew the clon was there so he must have consider that and if he didn't then Doflamingo was superior.
SECOND ENCOUNTER - Luffy's Red Hawk on Joker
Law is fighting with Joker's clone (Black Knight).
Luffy is fighting against Bellamy who is being controlled by Joker.
Luffy pretends to be upset at Law for the current situation (obviously devised).
Trebol falls for the hoax plan; Luffy aims his Red Hawk at Law whereby Law switches himself with Joker - and voila, Joker's met with a punch to the gut.
Wrong again. Doflamingo was not distracted. Law and Luffy's plan was effective and Doflamingo could not react to an attack that literally teleported him instantly even when, as seen in the last scan posted above, he saw the room and said "Shit" since he knew something was gonna happen but couldn't stop it. This will prove superiority in tactics of Law and Luffy and thanks to this, Doflamingo did not have time to use Haki.
THIRD ENCOUNTER - Law's half-dead, Bellamy's down & Luffy is fighting Joker 1 on 1
No interference, Luffy is holding his own and no one has the advantage.
Evidently, neither Luffy nor Joker are having the advantage or landing clean hits; it's pretty much even which Law couldn't even achieve in his own duel against Joker, he always on the defence and his offensive attacks were pretty much too easy for Joker to read.
False, Doflamingo was way superior than Luffy since he could dodge all his attacks while Doflamino was not being serious. And Law was indeed attacking and not just fighting in a defensive way.
FOURTH ENCOUNTER - Law's Interupts...Again
Luffy is about to feign another attack, Law uses room.
Law lands an apparently decisive blow to defeat Joker.
Lets not confuse tactics with distraction only. A distraction would have been an explosion out of the battle that would have made Doflamingo look at it and then Law uses the opportunity to attack Doflamingo. Unless that the distraction was from the people fighting, then it is just a tactic using distraction which thanks to the cunning of the person.
FINAL ENCOUNTER - Law is finally out for good
Luffy holds his own against Joker, and both are exchanging and dodging blows just like prior to Law's last interference.
False, Doflamingo took a lot of hits where he clearly was dodging before Gamma Knife, the reaction speed of Doflamingo fell a lot as seen in your scans. Luffy even had the advantage thanks to Gamma Knife. But even with this downfall of his reaction speed and stats he could fight Luffy and even Luffy in gear 4.
In retrospect, did Law ever engage Joker on terms that ever made them seem equal? Joker caught Law like a fly, he was not fast enough or strong enough to really be problematic for Joker.
Prior to anything Law did, Joker never once had the upper-hand against Luffy except there was a form of distraction in place; so it's pretty clear that Luffy and Joker were relatively even to the other until they both decided to use their trump cards which clearly showed the difference in speed and strength.
There really is not time where Joker is outrightly shown superior to Luffy, it's a lack of not reading properly that gives one that assumption. . It doesn't matter whether they fought 1 on 1 from the on-set, the fact is whenever they fought 1 on 1, it was always an evenly matched exchange.
False again. Doflamingo was superior. The only time Luffy had the upper hand was exactly after gamma knife.
Gear 4th vs Joker
When Joker was first met with Gear 4th, he acknowledged the power as we see here being that he said "what the heck is this power" - Completely out muscled.
Even though he noticed Luffy flying towards him, he still couldn't even turn to react to it, the best he could muster was activate Armament Haki just in time for the attack to land - Completely Out-sped.
His best close quarters kick was repelled and rendered absolutely ineffective. - Impenetrable Defence.
First, it is needed to clear that Doflamingo was hitted 3 times before he used his awakening only because he underestimated Luffy.
Indeed, Doflamingo lacked of physical power. But, once with his awakening, he could equal the power if not be superior to Gear 4 power and defence.
Doflamingo was hit 3 times by gear 4 due underestimating
The first time he was hit, is because he underestimate Gear 4 power and was sent flying. Reason he said he wanted to know how he got there.
Now, the time he was hit by Rhino, it was Doflamingo that saw Luffy coming from the palace and was analyzing how he was using his power and suddenly Luffy disappear and Doflamingo could not track him. But once he knew how fast he was, we see Doflamingo blitzing Gear 4 Culvarin and attacking him with his foot.
Now, Doflamingo kick didnt damage Luffy? False, Luffy is rubber but as seen in the scan, Doflamingo indeed bend Luffy and we can see the scratch mark that means damage, even if was not effective, Doflamingo did have power but was not enough.
In all honesty, in close-combat, Joker cannot defend against Gear 4th even with blocking, he can't keep up with the speed, and he can't even retaliate in close-combat - he's simply outmatched in every department; he simply cannot fight against it.
How long does one estimate the first few attacks took:
Kong Gun
Rhino Schneider
Culverin
Couldn't have been more than a minutes and that might even be too generous given they move at incredible speeds.
False, Doflamingo with his physical power could hurt and bend Luffy in gear 4 even though it was not very powerful. He could keep up with the speed of gear 4, the time Luffy got out the vision of Doflamingo was since he underestimated his speed. Luffy was superior in Power and Defense to a Doflamingo that was not using his awakening, once he used it, he had the upper hand since his speed was already enough to keep up with him.
Now, Luffy used his gear 4 almost immediately after Doflamingo said he had an hour to save everyone. At the end of the fight, there was only 3 or 4 minutes remaining. So they fought for at least 45 minutes of gear 4.
Joker's Solution
The same kick he used against Luffy in Gear 2nd/Base made him fly is no longer effective enough to hurt Luffy. As a result, he realises that he can no longer fight with Luffy the way he did in Gear 2nd due to the overwhelming difference in power.
Joker realises that Luffy's Gear 4th must be taking a huge toll on his body. Following this understanding, he resorts to simply keeping Luffy away from him at all costs.
Joker anticipates he'll be able to last only a second, but Luffy proves how durable he is and Joker gets frustrated by his persistence and wishes Luffy would just give up on trying to hit is real body.
After 20 minutes of trying to find his way to Joker's body to hit, he finally decides to just barge his way through his wall of strings.
...and finally lands Lea Bazooka.
If it takes a minute (less because it's not like Luffy charges his attacks) to land 3 attacks within close-combat quarters, it surely wouldn't take a minute more for Luffy to have executed:
Leo Bazooka which we saw at the 20th minute.
and King Kong gun after recuperating.
If we estimate and add up the total time taken to perform those 5 attacks, it couldn't require more than a minute to execute them, and that'd still leave 19 minutes in which Luffy could sustain Gear 4th being that it lasts 20 minutes at Dressrosa (probably longer now); in essence, Joker would have been defeated within a minute or 2 if he had no strings to hide behind to stall.
Doflamingo indeed knew that Luffy wont last forever in gear 4, but he never kept Luffy away. He fought him with his strings.
Dont use the words of Doflamingo to say he cant last longer since he never said that.
It took Luffy 20 minutes to give a hit and you think and then you said If he did not have his string it will take 2 minutes to beat him? Well, take out Luffy's Rub Boddy and it will take 2 minutes to be defeated. This is a stupid argument.
Conclusion
Yes, Joker is strong. However, it can't be denied how powerful his strings are and how great they are in keeping distance, attacking from range and the great offence they offer. If not for such a convenient power and this fight was a straight up brawl like it was with Gear 2nd at the later stages, this fight wouldn't have lasted long. Reality is also, Cracker fought using the same tactics and in the end, it only took 5 attacks from Gear 4th to defeat him.
His string are his power. And it does consume stamina. Be it little but it does. And it took 1 hit to defeat Cracker. And Cracker was a fodder for Luffy. Luffy literally humiliated him.
You're forgetting things. Cracker was able to cut Luffy in Gear 4. And it didn't took Luffy 5 attacks to defeat Cracker, just 1 attack in Gear 4th landed, it was a mega special attack and it included the impact of crackers own biscuits and other object in the way.
Is pretty obvious that Cracker is stronger than Doflamingo. And while Doflamingo wasn't stronger than Luffy. If you account the damage and stamina in Dressrossa is obvious that Luffy had a huge handicap, and he was taking a beat down period. Cracker was stronger than Luffy. Luffy was the one in the ropes.
And it doesn't matter how Cracker and Doflamingo uses their powers, it is their POWER. Luffy is also using his POWER. Gear 4th is nothing more than his use of Rubber power.
It is not obvious that Cracker is superior, Doflamingo is superior
Luffy got to Doflamingo with no damage. He did not fight seriously vs anyone before Doffy, in fact, he even ate after he fought Don Chinjao which was his last fight.
Not it wasn't the only time. When Luffy made the Gomu Gomu no Organ, he also cut Luffy.
Don't forget that Luffy to defeat Craker didn't only need Nami Rain, no, they also had to use the Homies in the Forest to stall him.
Cracker besides the slash he did to Luffy's arm, he never gave another hit to Luffy on panel. And the homies never stall him, that was only in the anime. In the manga that never happen, and if we bring the anime, Cracker fought Nami directly and never hit her.
1.- At a minimum, cracker's armor haki is superior to doflamingo's. Luffy specifically says cracker's armor haki is the toughest he had seen up to that point. And while armor haki isn't the end all of combat, it does give a pretty good idea of how exchanges between fighters can end. Cracker would be able to fairly consistently cut through doflamingo's haki.
2.- Cracker had the means to keep gear 4 luffy at bay. IIRC cracker actually dodged gear 4 luffy's attacks and on top of that he had his cracker army that consistently protected him. When luffy fought doflamingo, doflamingo was near helpless in front of gear 4. Luffy could close the distance with doflamingo with enough speed to land punches against the guy and overpower him. In turn luffy can't just speedblitz cracker, his speed wasn't enough to close the distance with cracker nor overcome the clone army.
3.- When the fight started, cracker overwhelmed gear 2/3 luffy in a way which not even doflamingo did. Doflamingo was of course superior to gear 2/3 luffy but cracker overpowered luffy practically instantly without even giving luffy a chance to land a hit.
4.- Cracker wasn't exclusively trying to keep luffy at bay once gear 4 kicked in. During the fight we need cracker jump at luffy a number of times. That something doflamingo never did against gear 4 luffy. The manga doesn't elaborate on how exactly cracker survived willingly approaching gear 4 luffy a number of times but considering the circumstances it is more than reasonable to suggest that he did so because he was fast enough to react to whatever luffy could throw at him at that range. Which is remarkable because cracker isn't someone that can afford to take a hit.
Overall, I would argue cracker has simply shown superior strength to doflamingo, even if the battle against doflamingo was a long battle of attrition that systematically weakened him.
Ace was strong without his ability, tank blows from Blackbeard, defeat Vice-Admiral Draw without having to use his ability because he is physically strong and a great fighter.
1.- At a minimum, cracker's armor haki is superior to doflamingo's. Luffy specifically says cracker's armor haki is the toughest he had seen up to that point.
That was a mistranslation. Luffy only said Cracker had a very strong Haki.
I had say Doflamingo probably has the strongest armament of the two, since he could withstand a few blows from Gear 4, while Luffy smashed the Biscuit soldier.
That was a mistranslation. Luffy only said Cracker had a very strong Haki.
I had say Doflamingo probably has the strongest armament of the two, since he could withstand a few blows from Gear 4, while Luffy smashed the Biscuit soldier.
Debatable. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Luffy use his Gear 4 ability to bounce Cracker back into several of his harden biscuits with twice the force and send him flying for miles?
That was a mistranslation. Luffy only said Cracker had a very strong Haki.
I had say Doflamingo probably has the strongest armament of the two, since he could withstand a few blows from Gear 4, while Luffy smashed the Biscuit soldier.
Even if it was a mistranslation, there is the issue that cracker was actually able to cut through gear 4 with his sword. IIRC doflamingo never cut gear 4 luffy. Though he did succeed with gear 2/3 luffy. Doflamingo being able to withstand hits shouldn't be the standard here either. Cracker for all his skill simply wasn't durable. Oda set him up so that luffy could defeat him with very few hits (in fact, one, though there were a number of things which made the hit exceptional). And we did see the soldiers could withstand a couple of hits.
Debatable. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Luffy use his Gear 4 ability to bounce Cracker back into several of his harden biscuits with twice the force and send him flying for miles?
Even if it was a mistranslation, there is the issue that cracker was actually able to cut through gear 4 with his sword. IIRC doflamingo never cut gear 4 luffy. Though he did succeed with gear 2/3 luffy. Doflamingo being able to withstand hits shouldn't be the standard here either. Cracker for all his skill simply wasn't durable. Oda set him up so that luffy could defeat him with very few hits (in fact, one, though there were a number of things which made the hit exceptional). And we did see the soldiers could withstand a couple of hits.
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