Jujutsu Kaisen Chapter 183 - Spoilers & Discussion

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[Franz]

Basically seems like Hakari's Domain is a Pachinko machine, specifically one that is part of a crossover with some romance manga.

Hakari can control the pachinko balls and the effects of the Domain are determined by how well Hakari does at pachinko.

Charles attacks and pierces hakari's left side but '3' has been prepared.

A fierce kick to Charles' nose, luring him in, probability shifts.

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The chapter explains more about hakari's Cursed Technique.

Characters appear in Hakari's domain, and a "drama scenario" plays out, Hakari delivering his attacks depends on that "drama scenario" succeeding, and if it fails they go back to the "regular stage."

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Charles G War-staff broke at the end of the chap

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The pachinko is called Pure Love Train(?)

It's based on the romance manga exists in jjk world. The story is set in a train station.

Rules Explaination[Part-1]

Zasatsu Bakuto is a domain modeled after Pachinko game. Like a slot machine, the game is won if three patterns are aligned. If Hakari hits jackpot, he will be given the bonus. What kind of bonus is unknown.

Hakari repeatedly draws probabilities and the result becomes an attack (like the one which he summons train door), and the stage in the domain changes depending on the Reach Action

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Gege lost his mind

 

[Neala897]

Gege lost his mind

Long time ago. I told you all this battle system is getting out of hands

 

[Franz]

Long time ago. I told you all this battle system is getting out of hands

Personally I'm not complaining about it, but I understand who might be perplexed.

 

[luck002]

Long time ago. I told you all this battle system is getting out of hands

It reminds me of HxH nen's abilities

 

[Franz]

It reminds me of HxH nen's abilities

Considering how the nen skills had become in the last few chapters, I wouldn't consider it a good thing .....

 

[Riverskull]

Man, i laughed a lot, Gege is on some drugs lmao

 

[Aeneas]

Considering how the nen skills had become in the last few chapters, I wouldn't consider it a good thing .....

Most people praised Tserriednich and Hinrigh's abilities. And text aside, Rihan's ability was praised as well. And Zakuro and Lynch's abilities are pretty simple, so I'm not sure what you're referring to here besides the usual "let me criticize HxH whenever possible".

 

[Franz]

Most people praised Tserriednich and Hinrigh's abilities. And text aside, Rihan's ability was praised as well. And Zakuro and Lynch's abilities are pretty simple,

Are you sure ?

I remember that Togashi's complex powers and explanations were hated in the same way as Akutami's complex powers and explanations are hated now.

 

[Aeneas]

Are you sure ?

I remember that complex powers and explanations were hated in the same way as Akutami's are hated

The complexity is usually cited as a positive, yes. Although again, most of the abilities in the recent chapters weren't even complex, so I'm still not sure what you meant there.

As for Kaisen, it's one of the issues I've had with the power system. As Gege himself admitted, he based cursed energy on Nen, but unlike Nen, it's lacking some of the specificity (e.g., categories) that was used to build it up. So it can sometimes feel fairly shapeless and like it's based purely on Gege's whim (as you've mentioned, more comparable to what Araki does with Stands and the lack of constraints there).

 

[Franz]

As for Kaisen, it's one of the issues I've had with the power system. As Gege himself admitted, he based cursed energy on Nen, but unlike Nen, it's lacking some of the specificity (e.g., categories) that was used to build it up. So it can sometimes feel fairly shapeless and like it's based purely on Gege's whim (as you've mentioned, more comparable to what Araki does with Stands and the lack of constraints there).

I would honestly do more of a comparison with Togashi and its extreme technicality.

For Araki, Gege definitely lacks his creative flair, and his voluntary eccentricity ....

 

[Aeneas]

I would honestly do more of a comparison with Togashi and its extreme technicality.

For Araki, Gege definitely lacks his creative flair, and his voluntary eccentricity ....

Well, Araki himself isn't lacking in technicality sometimes (Stone Ocean spoilers):

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[Franz]

Well, Araki himself isn't lacking in technicality sometimes (Stone Ocean spoilers):

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True, but with Araki this problem never exists, because it compensates for the complexity with a good dose of weirdness and bizarre trash that makes everything much more digestible.

Things that, with Togashi and Akutami, seem to be missing.

 

[Aeneas]

True, but with Araki this problem never exists, because it compensates for the complexity with a good dose of weirdness and bizarre trash that makes everything much more digestible.

Things that, with Togashi and Akutami, seem to be missing.

JoJo's is one of my favorite series, but I always dislike that excuse (i.e., things being almost immune to criticism because, hey, look how weird and bizarre they are).

It's a lot harder to make abilities work with actual rules and consistency. For example, I find Tserriednich's ability to be a better King Crimson because it has actual limitations and a clear explanation (even excluding the bad fan scans for Part 5).

 

[Franz]

JoJo's is one of my favorite series, but I always dislike that excuse (i.e., things being almost immune to criticism because, hey, look how weird and bizarre they are).

It is not a justification, but more a discourse that the context helps to make everything digestible.

For example, in Jujutsu Kaisen there have always been large explanations and complex techniques, but all in all, one made them go well because they were done in familiar contexts and with well-known characters.


Here, on the other hand, between new characters and a change of atmosphere it seems to be in another manga ...

 

[Aeneas]

It is not a justification, but more a discourse that the context helps to make everything digestible.

For example, in Jujutsu Kaisen there have always been large explanations and complex techniques, but all in all, one made them go well because they were done in familiar contexts and with well-known characters.


Here, on the other hand, between new characters and a change of atmosphere it seems to be in another manga...

I guess you edited it out, but I'm not sure Naobito's technique is the best to use since many were (and still are) confused by it. :P

But if we keep the discussion focused on Kaisen, I definitely agree with you. Gege said that he tries to get as close as possible to Togashi's style, and others may argue that the style itself is flawed, but I think it's more that Gege overdoes it at times and oversteps what he can do (especially given how nebulous cursed energy can be).

It goes back to what I've said before about the arc feeling more like a collection of fights rather than an actual narrative with plotting. I wouldn't mind so many newly introduced opponents if it actually seemed like they would have more of a role than just someone for the protagonists to show off their abilities against.

 

[animeangryfan4]

It reminds me of HxH nen's abilities

no wonder I am starting to dislike the things in the manga

 

[Lord Traffy Law]

Lmfao wtf
But this is a domain expansion technique so I’ll allow it

 

[Franz]

It goes back to what I've said before about the arc feeling more like a collection of fights rather than an actual narrative with plotting. I wouldn't mind so many newly introduced opponents if it actually seemed like they would have more of a role than just someone for the protagonists to show off their abilities against.

They could have a role in the future, after all the only ones to be dead are few, most of the competitors are still alive.

 

[Aeneas]

They could have a role in the future, after all the only ones to be dead are few, most of the competitors are still alive.

Them all teaming up to fight Kenjaku would definitely improve the arc for me.