Jujutsu Kaisen Chapter 244 - Spoilers & Discussion

[Franz]

English translation

 

[RatibTM]

As explained before, Gojo would not have been able to fight at full strength, but looking at things now, looks like Higuruma would have been a big help right from the start.

This is what I meant, there was definitely a way that you can use his help if Itadori was enough as a support to trap him in the trial

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Higuruma couldn't have done anything in that fight.

Why though?
If Itadori was enough, why Gojo wouldn't be?

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Let's be real here, most of them would be killed on the first domain expansion. Maybe after the power ups they will get from these fights they will be strong enough to resist or counter it, but right now there's no evidence that any of them would be able to handle that.

Which would it be better:
Gojo + Higuruma + Itadori
Or Higuruma + Itadori
?

After seeing Sakuna trapped (regardless whether he can escape or not), Gege killed Gojo and Kashimo for no reason.

 

[papypopo]

This is what I meant, there was definitely a way that you can use his help if Itadori was enough as a support to trap him in the trial

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Why though?
If Itadori was enough, why Gojo wouldn't be?

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Which would it be better:
Gojo + Higuruma + Itadori
Or Higuruma + Itadori
?

After seeing Sakuna trapped (regardless whether he can escape or not), Gege killed Gojo and Kashimo for no reason.

Actually Kashimo served his role, he forced Sukuna to reveal two of his trump card, one by restoring his body and the other by summoning his weapon. Actually, sukuna being trapped by a DE may be somehow because of gojo who damaged sukuna’s brain enough to render DE impossible for him, although it’s still unclear if he has restored his body completly or just his apparence since it’s state that doing so was without the use of RCT.

The distraction offer by Mei Mei could also be the reason why he couldn’t do it in time

 

[dopeycheese]

i can already guess how this is going to pan out, sukuna can basically use "saving megumi" as a defense for the shibuya massacre. Which is true really, the only reason he engaged in combat with maho and used DE was to save megumi from the ritual. The casualties from the resulting DE would be involuntary manslaughter. But i guess the heroes didn't know that, and choosing a retrial would be their downfall. With this, I see Higuruma death flags

Any lawyers to comment?
The most they can achieve is technique confiscation and that's the thing, which technique will he confiscate?

 

[Gallon]

i can already guess how this is going to pan out, sukuna can basically use "saving megumi" as a defense for the shibuya massacre. Which is true really, the only reason he engaged in combat with maho and used DE was to save megumi from the ritual. The casualties from the resulting DE would be involuntary manslaughter. But i guess the heroes didn't know that, and choosing a retrial would be their downfall. With this, I see Higuruma death flags

Any lawyers to comment?
The most they can achieve is technique confiscation and that's the thing, which technique will he confiscate?

Eh, he used Domain Expansion in order to test if Mahoraga had adapted to only Dismantle or to slashing attacks in general. Thing is, he still expanded his domain to 140 meters and committed mass genocide just for shits and giggles. I don't think one can be found innocent when taking multiple innocent lives in exchange for one.

 

[dopeycheese]

Eh, he used Domain Expansion in order to test if Mahoraga had adapted to only Dismantle or to slashing attacks in general. Thing is, he still expanded his domain to 140 meters and committed mass genocide just for shits and giggles. I don't think one can be found innocent when taking multiple innocent lives in exchange for one.

Yeah everyone knows sukuna is scum, but in a courtroom setting it depends on how he presents his case to judgeman. When yuji was on trial for his underage pachinko adventures, even higuruma said all he had to do was to feign ignorance on the existence of the pachinko. Sukuna having witness yuji's trial can make up all sorts of excuses to convince judgeman.

But meh, i just realised even having executioner's sword isn't really a big deal in this scenario because higuruma would still have to actually land a hit with the sword

 

[Franz]

Out

 

[nfinitfx]

This is what I meant, there was definitely a way that you can use his help if Itadori was enough as a support to trap him in the trial

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Why though?
If Itadori was enough, why Gojo wouldn't be?

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Which would it be better:
Gojo + Higuruma + Itadori
Or Higuruma + Itadori
?

After seeing Sakuna trapped (regardless whether he can escape or not), Gege killed Gojo and Kashimo for no reason.

The key test of whether Higuruma is useful or not would be to see next 1-2 chapter if Sakuna can even overpower the courtroom using pure strength. If he can, then yes the other critics would be right, but if he can't and force to participate in a trial. Then Gojo + Higuruma + Itadori + Hakari + Kashimo would have likely beat Sakuna.

 

[Antonho]

This is what I meant, there was definitely a way that you can use his help if Itadori was enough as a support to trap him in the trial

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Why though?
If Itadori was enough, why Gojo wouldn't be?

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Are we reading the same story? Gojo have a fucking massive ego on him, just like sukuna. Both of the wanted that 1v1 fight to happen. And yeah, before their domains was exausted, leaving Gojo to fight alone would’ve been better, but Gojo still had ways to kill people that intervened in their fight. The students weren't 100% wrong on that.


Which would it be better:
Gojo + Higuruma + Itadori
Or Higuruma + Itadori
?

After seeing Sakuna trapped (regardless whether he can escape or not), Gege killed Gojo and Kashimo for no reason.

 

[lexx]

Am I missing something here? If Judgeman uses confiscation, ok there's one (of many) techniques surrendered. Sukuna still wins due to overwhelming raw strength plus his other techniques. If Judgeman uses death penalty, sure there's the executioner's sword but Higuruma's actually got to, y'know, land a hit on Sukuna, and Sukuna's got all of his strengths and tools.

If they somehow pulled off multiple trials consecutively and Sukuna had EVERY technique confiscated PLUS the "if no technique to confiscate, confiscate all cursed energy" final rule, then maybe they could win.

 

[SanaNeOlm]

Alright everyone…prepare to be trolled by Gege once again cuz I just found this post going around that states the following by a Japanese fan:

According to Japanese Judiciary Law- Penal Code 178:

“The death penalty shall not be executed on Sundays, Saturdays, holidays stipulated in the Law on National Holidays, January 2, January 3, and December 29 to 31.

Sukuna: “December 24, 2018 is considered holidays in lieu of the Emperor's Birthday”

The Japanese fans are currently horrified because they 100% believe Gege will pull this card. Which means Higuruma cannot use his sword and Gojo will be to blame for choosing this date.

This man is a lawyer…how did he not see this as a possibility for his domain?

Is this true? Got it from reddit. If so, damn Gojo...

 

[Senoirmeow]

Is this true? Got it from reddit. If so, damn Gojo...

Might not necessarily have an emperor with that exact birthday. The U.S president was a fictitious character. So the Japanese emperor will most likely be fictitious too. Plus 24th Dec - 2018 was a Monday.
If Higuruma didn’t take this into account he wouldn’t have been considered a prodigious lawyer in the first place.
Sukuna probably has another clause in mind.

Ex: he’s not exactly human so the human legal system shouldn’t apply to him, or Sukuna isn’t his real name so he can claim it wasn’t him who committed murder - or because death by cursed energy isn’t part of the legal code he might be exempt since “magical” anomalies might not fall under a method of murder maybe. If this was real life and someone called lightning down on someone and murdered them - would you be convicted of murder? - unlikely.
Or penalties might not apply since he may claim he died 1,000 years ago?

There’s multiple ways he can get out of it other than it being a holiday. Even so he would be subject to Technique removal should the death penalty fail which is still a table turning ability.

 

[nfinitfx]

Am I missing something here? If Judgeman uses confiscation, ok there's one (of many) techniques surrendered. Sukuna still wins due to overwhelming raw strength plus his other techniques. If Judgeman uses death penalty, sure there's the executioner's sword but Higuruma's actually got to, y'know, land a hit on Sukuna, and Sukuna's got all of his strengths and tools.

If they somehow pulled off multiple trials consecutively and Sukuna had EVERY technique confiscated PLUS the "if no technique to confiscate, confiscate all cursed energy" final rule, then maybe they could win.

If Higuruma really can confiscate Sakuna's curse technique, that would mean that he could have been helpful in Gojo's fight. He could have just gave the executioner's sword to Gojo.

 

[Battle Wolf]

The question is... He'll confiscate Sukuna technique or Megumi?

 

[Senoirmeow]

If Higuruma really can confiscate Sakuna's curse technique, that would mean that he could have been helpful in Gojo's fight. He could have just gave the executioner's sword to Gojo.

Kashimo seems to have hinted that even if someone is helpful it was a fight to see who the strongest is - a battle of honour. So it was best to to leave them alone. Otherwise they should’ve all jumped him - then again Gojo fights better alone.

 

[nfinitfx]

Kashimo seems to have hinted that even if someone is helpful it was a fight to see who the strongest is - a battle of honour. So it was best to to leave them alone. Otherwise they should’ve all jumped him - then again Gojo fights better alone.

That is Kashimo's view, he just want to fight the strongest alone (Gojo may have thought something along of these lines too), everyone else just want to defeat Sakuna.

 

[Bradhimself]

The question is... He'll confiscate Sukuna technique or Megumi?

Sukuna was in control. Unless that can't be determined and is out on a loophole.

 

[Rjbtv]

is it a break week?

 

[Emmanu]

is it a break week?

No.