Games Mafia Game 94 - Magi: The Crests of Magic - END GAME

Who do you consider the MVP of this game?

  • Holt

    Votes: 9 39.1%
  • + Holt

    Votes: 6 26.1%
  • - Holt

    Votes: 6 26.1%
  • -/+ Holt

    Votes: 8 34.8%
  • GrySun

    Votes: 11 47.8%
  • Belserion

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Erinwet

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Hardy

    Votes: 4 17.4%
  • Evil3ye

    Votes: 4 17.4%
  • Pando

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Boobyfosh

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Haya-san

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Margi

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Desin

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Scary Sakura

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Hermit

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Seraph

    Votes: 7 30.4%
  • Seiko

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Marma

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Distrustedspeed

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • DD

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Pompom-chan

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Jinx

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Big nose shinobi

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • James

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Shobu Oak

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Equaling Hell

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Asako and Threeson

    Votes: 3 13.0%

  • Total voters
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Evil3ye

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With not much of role hints to go by this game yet again the voting will be the cruicial part to determine the mafia. Last game all shifty day1 votes were done exclusively by mafias (daws' placeholder vote on digital, sakura's lawlett then evil vote, asako's digital vote, gry's erin vote, etc).
 

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Well looks like it‘ll mostly be left up to luck chance for first night‘s dungeons. Nothing much catching my eye so far so lynch may just be a luck chance as well.
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Evil gave an explanation but could be a lie to cover his careless first approach to the game.
what explanation? to what?
 

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what explanation? to what?
To me questioning his weird first post. You‘ll have to check back yourself for full clarity.
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Im guessing there's no deadpad if dead people can vote? :0
Why not? We‘ll run out of metal vessels to give by the time enough people die, ans if hosts don‘t spoil the players the whole setup then they can just vote as normal. Just that they get a few players to make a consensus on.
 

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Evil gave an explanation but could be a lie to cover his careless first approach to the game.
Cover up what, how lazy a reader I am? Well, busted. My PM had a normal hintable role, assuming everyone else had the same, but turns out didn't. At the very least I didn't completely narrowing it down to basically only good roles, as has happened some others. haha
 

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Why not? We‘ll run out of metal vessels to give by the time enough people die, ans if hosts don‘t spoil the players the whole setup then they can just vote as normal. Just that they get a few players to make a consensus on.
yeah bc they could discuss who to vote for otherwise
 

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I'm just a cute goi. Why don't you all vote me to win baal. I am the greatest dungeon conqueror of all time btw.
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Reading the OP properly is one this.. following the discussion about it is something else :notlikethis
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I am gonna votelock in 20 so I go to bed.
 

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Yes.
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So fresh new day, and seems hosts clarified on a lot since yesterday, should all make more sense now.
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Hm seems more straight-forward that I read it now. The 3 Magis will only start existing after D2, so far all players are either Magicians and Goi.

The metal vessels(basically 1-shot role usages) can only go to Goi. So I assume there are more Goi players among us than Magicians. Still not sure whether sharing if we're Magician or Goi is a good idea, I'd say no but some have practically already done that it seems via role hinting so might as well go all the way with it now.

Whoever gets a metal vessel at night should be examined thoroughly next day, as it's very easy for mafia to influence it to give it to one of their Goi. Plus it should be simple for everyone to reveal who they voted and why, and any inconsistencies can be spotted easily.

The rukh thing means dead players will actually be able to vote for metal vessels/Magis, so even dead players can keep playing.

@SonOfDaws @Asako just some specific questions:

1. What does it mean to "unequip" the metal vessel? Since it says nowhere about equipping, I assume it gets auto-equipped as soon as it's obtained? But then what does unequipping accomplish?
2. What happens if most votes in the dungeon go to a Magician? Since presumably we only get names, but not highlighted who is a Goi, how do we avoid voting a Magician and wasting the metal vessel?
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Wait so it's not just a 1-shot use role, but metal vessel owners get a role + a special 1-shot power?
1. Equipping Metal Vessels is mentioned in the same sentence where Metal Vessels are introduced as a mechanic, but I reworded the section for clarity:
All [Goi], players with no starting role ability, can get [Metal Vessels] and can equip them to become the Metal Vessel's normal role ability and its Extreme Magic role ability, a one-time use ability.

Equipping a Metal Vessel takes one phase. Once equipped, the Goi will be able to use the role normally.

Casting Extreme Magic also takes one phase and the Extreme Magic ability is only available for use the one following phase. No matter which Metal Vessel is used, each Goi can only cast Extreme Magic once.

Equipping another Metal Vessel automatically unequips the previous Metal Vessel.
1. Unequipping happens automatically upon equipping another Metal Vessel. Equipping a Metal Vessel is an action that takes a phase (day or night) to complete.

2. Just like with votekills and role claims in most circumstances, it's up to the players to figure out what each player is and who to vote for. Dungeon votes on a Magician do nothing, but votes on a Goi are the ticket to success.
 

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So the goi will get the vessel, then has to equip it for one phase, then has to announce extreme magic for one phase, all that while being known to possess it, huh. If there's a way to keep it discreet then this is the way to go. Otherwise it's just a walking target for several days for the multiple mafia and/or third parties.
 

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So you have to know who is in your dungeon plus know who is a goy.
 

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I have decided to votelock Hermit out of revenge.

He singled out singularities :nah

Also has a headache. Has he started this game in depravity and it is weighing on his conscience, and thus requires paracetamol?
 

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hm so only those in the dungeon can vote for those in the dungeon but dead folk can vote globally or sth?
 

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So the goi will get the vessel, then has to equip it for one phase, then has to announce extreme magic for one phase, all that while being known to possess it, huh. If there's a way to keep it discreet then this is the way to go. Otherwise it's just a walking target for several days for the multiple mafia and/or third parties.
There's gotta be protector roles in this to protecc the goi?
 

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im guessing you can hold multiple vessels and alternate between them
 

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Btw i dunno where this came form or how, but it isn't like last game

There no night pad for dungeon, it's a dungeon, your trail
Everything is done by pm
 

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Only 7 hours left? Damn, at least it's only 10 pages I gotta go through, haven't checked game mechanics yet but I have to say my avi look awesome, really cool. <3
 

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At the end of a day phase with dungeons in it, all the players in a particular dungeon get PMed a list of players in the dungeon and each player can vote of any of them through their own personal PMs.
Cool. Sweet as a ripe peach.
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Now lemme catch up. I don't like not being active.
 
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